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List:       kde-look
Subject:    Re: K start menu icon ideas
From:       Jim Conner <jconner83 () yahoo ! com>
Date:       2001-07-28 6:21:32
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I totally agree with you about they MS method of doing this.  I think of 
having it as a separate project would be very maintainable and easy to 
integrate.  Since it would use the existing KDE Help engine the new user 
would be able to print these out so that they can read them and have them for 
future reference.  Possibly having a one or two page summary of all of them 
for the user to print out might not be a bad idea.  This would be reminiscent 
of the 'Quick-Start' guides that were prevalent in DOS and that generation of 
applications that came on a small piece of card stock.  Sometimes these were 
used and were useful, sometimes not.

Jim

On Saturday July 28, 2001  1:03 am, Chris Altmann wrote:
<snip>
> They lied. I can get Clippy in two clicks in Windows XP. They only turned
> him off by default. He's still there, waiting for a chance to intrude.
>
> I mentioned what Windows XP is doing in this area in a nother post. Office
> XP has a variation on this scheme called Task Panes. They are dockable
> panes to the left or right of the document that in some cases act as
> wizards.
>
> I think your idea, with a always-on-top windows styled as an interactive
> reference card, but where the user actually performs the actions on the
> real UI, would be a good way to go.
>
> The problem with MS's method (mainly a problem with Clippy, much less so
> with task panes) is that if you don't use the aids, you don't see the same
> interface to do it on your own as you did when theye were there to help. If
> Clippy was on and you quite with unsaved changes, he would ask if you
> wanted to save in his own cartoon bubble. If he was disabled, the standard
> dialog would ask the same (possibly worded slightly different) question. I
> think its best to have the user use the real interface and keep the guide
> separate but close at hand. It makes it easier to handle as a separate KDE
> project as well.

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