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List:       kwin
Subject:    Re: Fwd: Project: Window tabbing
From:       Andrew Dorrell <andrew.dorrell () gmail ! com>
Date:       2009-03-13 2:21:48
Message-ID: 49B9C33C.7020104 () gmail ! com
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Hi Lucas,

Just out of curiosity, do you envisage the "tabbing" could be 
implemented *only* as an additional window decoration?  Or could it also 
be implemented as a grouping at the task-bar for example. 

I can imagine for example having a group-bar (as opposed task bar).  
Click on the group in the group bar to bring up a list of windows (or 
switch to an expose view of the window group or ...).

Handled this way, full-screen apps could still be maintained in groups I 
think.  Could Alt-Tab then show grouped icons?  i.e. all windows but 
spatially grouped, perhaps with coloured backgrounds or in rows, to 
reflect your "tabbed" groups?

Just some thoughts.

I am a little concerned that there are a lot of different approaches to 
how this underlying concept of activity based groups should be 
implemented in KDE.  It would be nice to pull them together somehow - 
before it all gets too confusing for everyone.


Thanks for reading,


Lucas Murray wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Jorge Mata <matamax123@gmail.com> wrote:
>> For grouping windows it should be with the mouse like dragging a window
>> to another, a menu to display add/remove from group options, or both?
>
> Both and a keyboard shortcut. Be careful with the dragging though as 
> you don't want accidental triggers.
>
>> When grouping windows what should happen whit a window in full screen
>> mode like a video play back and a smaller window?
>
> If a grouped window requests its decoration to be removed it should 
> also be removed from the group as it would no longer be possible to 
> switch between tabs without a decoration (Although it would still be 
> possible with a shortcut there should always be a visible method 
> available for usability purposes). If an application uses its main 
> window for fullscreening then there will be problems but I don't 
> really see how we can work around this at a window manager's level 
> without complicating things too much.
>
>> In the task bar communication and when switching windows with alt-tab
>> you mind something like display only the current window or all the
>> windows in the group?
>
> Lets just ignore the taskbar for now as it's just a distraction at the 
> moment. For alt+tab we would want all windows to still be listed like 
> they currently are by default but I guess there's nothing stopping us 
> from adding Yet Another Setting for it as there are valid uses for 
> grouped window switching (Gives me an idea for present windows...).
>
>> I downloaded kwin's code and start to read it so I can get some ideas
>> about the implementation, is there something I should do to prepare
>> myself for the project?
>
> If you can successfully compile a custom build of KWin then that's all 
> you really need. For actual development there are two main choices: 
> Develop is a branch on the KDE Subversion server or use Git. I'd 
> personally prefer using Git as it makes it easier for me to test, help 
> debug and collaborate with code but if you don't have any experience 
> with it then it would be possible to get by just with Subversion. The 
> main Git repository that Martin and myself are using is available at:
>
> http://github.com/Zarin/kwin/network
>
> Once you have been selected for a GSoC position if you want to develop 
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>
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