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From: "Susan Penter" <susan.penter () gmail ! com>
Date: 2008-10-26 14:02:41
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Thanks for all the advice, I have submitted the bug, I see one other person
has also reported it. I will try Sitecopy as it looks good. I think I will
also get hold of Konqueror too as it may help with stability.
Cheers,
Susan
Penterprises Creative Solutions
penterprises.creative.solutions@googlemail.com
www.penterprises-creative-solutions.co.uk
OPC for Lanteglos-by-Fowey
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> 1. Re: PHP class completion (Melchior Mazzone)
> 2. Re: PHP class completion (Niko Sams)
> 3. Re: Quanta Crashes (Susan Penter)
> 4. Re: Quanta Crashes (Niko Sams)
> 5. Re: Quanta Crashes (Andrew Wigglesworth)
> 6. Re: Quanta Crashes (Andrew Lowe)
> 7. Re: Quanta Crashes (Andrew Wigglesworth)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:33:37 +1030
> From: Melchior Mazzone <melchior@themazzone.com>
> Subject: Re: [Quanta] PHP class completion
> To: Quanta users list <quanta@mail.kde.org>
> Message-ID: <200810252033.38316.melchior@themazzone.com>
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> On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:30:29 pm Niko Sams wrote:
> > The CodeCompletion for Quanta3 is pretty simple. It parses the current
> > file plus included files.
> > But it doesn't know about other classes/functions that might be
> > avaliable in the current file.
>
> This mostly works for me - it's loading the classes (and methods) out of my
> included files, it just misses some of them. Is the only way to refresh
> the
> cache to reload the project? (assuming there is a cache).
>
> > Quanta4 will solve this by showing every class and function in the
> > currently open projects.
>
> This will be awesome. I look forward to it! :)
>
> Melchior
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:13:25 +0200
> From: "Niko Sams" <niko.sams@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Quanta] PHP class completion
> To: "Melchior Mazzone" <melchior@themazzone.com>, "Quanta users
> list"
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> > This mostly works for me - it's loading the classes (and methods) out of
> my
> > included files, it just misses some of them. Is the only way to refresh
> the
> > cache to reload the project? (assuming there is a cache).
> Sorry, but i know nothing about the internals of Quanta3
>
> Niko
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:56:29 +0100
> From: "Susan Penter" <susan.penter@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Quanta] Quanta Crashes
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> what exactly do you mean "crashes Ubuntu"?
> what protocol does the upload site use, and does it work in konqueror?
>
> 1) the screen goes black shows some text and then I get my login window.
>
> 2) The site uses FTP and the same settings work fine in both filezilla or
> Kompozer. I do not use Konqueror I have Ubuntu and use Firefox.
>
> I have several sites set up now to upload but I can't trust the upload to
> web button at all, occasionally it has given me the menu so I can choose
> the
> pages and then it uploads quickly like a dream however yesterday it crashed
> - see above and then I opened Quanta and tried again and it crashed again.
> It is a bit of a pain but I'm having to do the work in Qunata and then go
> across to Filezilla to upload it - unless there is a bug fix I do not have
> the time to keep re loging in and having to open all my software each time.
>
> Thanks for any advice (I am an advanced user but not a programmer but I can
> follow instructions)
>
> Susan
>
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> From: "Niko Sams" <niko.sams@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Quanta] Quanta Crashes
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> > 1) the screen goes black shows some text and then I get my login window.
> oh. No application should be able to do that. I can't help you on this,
> sorry.
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:49:10 +0100
> From: Andrew Wigglesworth <ecadre@googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Quanta] Quanta Crashes
> To: Quanta users list <quanta@mail.kde.org>
> Message-ID: <200810252249.13452.ecadre@googlemail.com>
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> On Saturday 25 October 2008 14:56:29 Susan Penter wrote:
> > what exactly do you mean "crashes Ubuntu"?
> > what protocol does the upload site use, and does it work in konqueror?
> >
> > 1) the screen goes black shows some text and then I get my login window.
> >
> > 2) The site uses FTP and the same settings work fine in both filezilla or
> > Kompozer. I do not use Konqueror I have Ubuntu and use Firefox.
> >
> > I have several sites set up now to upload but I can't trust the upload to
> > web button at all, occasionally it has given me the menu so I can choose
> > the pages and then it uploads quickly like a dream however yesterday it
> > crashed - see above and then I opened Quanta and tried again and it
> crashed
> > again. It is a bit of a pain but I'm having to do the work in Qunata and
> > then go across to Filezilla to upload it - unless there is a bug fix I
> do
> > not have the time to keep re loging in and having to open all my software
> > each time.
> >
> > Thanks for any advice (I am an advanced user but not a programmer but I
> can
> > follow instructions)
> >
> > Susan
>
> Hi,
>
> I think you should look at maybe placing a bug report with Ubuntu, they are
> the ones who compiled your installation of Quanta, and will be the only
> ones
> who can begin to try to sort it it out.
>
> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/reportproblem
>
> This is not a process of fobbing you off, it's just that in the GNU/Linux
> world, this is the way that things happen. It's unlikely that anyone on
> this
> list will be able to answer your specific problem (unless they're the
> Debian
> or Ubuntu Quanta package maintainer).
>
> The point being, that Ubuntu derive their packaging from Debian who take it
> from the individual projects and adapt stuff to work together as the Debian
> GNU/Linux distribution. Ubuntu of course also make changes themselves, so
> this is where you should start. If the problem arises further upstream
> then
> Ubuntu will pass it on to Debian, who themselves may pass information onto
> Quanta or some other project if they themselves did not originate the
> problem.
>
> The "other project" stuff may be an issue here, since the operating system
> is
> complex, the problem could well have nothing to do with Quanta at all.
>
> --
> Andrew
> http://www.andrew-wigglesworth.co.uk
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:51:22 +1100
> From: Andrew Lowe <andrew.lowe@manildra.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [Quanta] Quanta Crashes
> To: Quanta users list <quanta@mail.kde.org>
> Message-ID: <490394DA.6050702@manildra.com.au>
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>
> Susan Penter wrote:
> > what exactly do you mean "crashes Ubuntu"?
> > what protocol does the upload site use, and does it work in konqueror?
> >
> > 1) the screen goes black shows some text and then I get my login window.
> >
> As Niko said, an application can not crash your window manager/desktop
> environment - it sounds like a bug with that...
> > 2) The site uses FTP and the same settings work fine in both filezilla
> > or Kompozer. I do not use Konqueror I have Ubuntu and use Firefox.
> >
> The reason Konqueror is suggested is because KDE applications all use
> KIO slaves to do work with files, this way we can be transparently
> working over ftp, sftp, ssh (fish), http, or local files, without the
> application having to write its own protocol handler. If ftp works in
> Konqueror, and not in Quanta, then there is something wrong with the way
> Quanta is handling the kio slave, else if they both crash, then it would
> be a bug with the kio slave. You could try Kate or kwrite or any other
> kde application that supports your protocol, just to test this
> functionality.
> And Konqueror is a most excellent advanced file manager that can work on
> remote files just as well as local, not just a browser...
> > I have several sites set up now to upload but I can't trust the upload
> > to web button at all, occasionally it has given me the menu so I can
> > choose the pages and then it uploads quickly like a dream however
> > yesterday it crashed - see above and then I opened Quanta and tried
> > again and it crashed again. It is a bit of a pain but I'm having to
> > do the work in Qunata and then go across to Filezilla to upload it -
> > unless there is a bug fix I do not have the time to keep re loging in
> > and having to open all my software each time.
> >
> To check if it is a problem with a config file, you could try to rename
> the quanta config file from ~/.kde/share/config/quantarc - it contains
> all the settings changes for quanta. Re-naming lets you copy it back if
> need be.
> You might also want to re-create the project, as it could be a setting
> in there causing problems...
> But I do think it is unrelated to Quanta, because your desktop
> environment should not crash, due to an application playing up
>
> Also provide version number of Quanta and KDE - in Quanta, go to
> help->about and post the Quanta and KDE versions
>
> Andrew Lowe
>
> > Thanks for any advice (I am an advanced user but not a programmer but
> > I can follow instructions)
> >
> > Susan
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:03:51 +0100
> From: Andrew Wigglesworth <ecadre@googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Quanta] Quanta Crashes
> To: Quanta users list <quanta@mail.kde.org>
> Message-ID: <200810252303.53358.ecadre@googlemail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"
>
> Oh, and on the website updating issue. You really should not be forced to
> use
> programmes like filezilla et al.
>
> Personally, I don't use the site updater in Quanta very much as I prefer to
> use other methods.
>
> If you are using ftp to update your website, then you should have a look at
> the excellent little utility "sitecopy". You can install it through
> aptitude
> using the following command:
>
> apitude install sitecopy
>
> You can of course also use whatever gui packagemanager you wish, just
> remembering the name is "sitecopy".
>
>
> ### Description from the sitecopy man page ###
> sitecopy is for copying locally stored web sites to remote web servers. A
> single command will upload files to the server which have changed locally,
> and delete files from the server which have been removed locally,
> to
> keep the remote site synchronized with the local site. The aim is to
> remove
> the hassle of uploading and deleting individual files using an FTP
> client. Sitecopy will also optionally try to spot files you move locally,
> and move them remotely.
> #########################
>
> --
> Andrew
> http://www.andrew-wigglesworth.co.uk
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:25:59 +0100
> From: Andrew Wigglesworth <ecadre@googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Quanta] Quanta Crashes
> To: Quanta users list <quanta@mail.kde.org>
> Message-ID: <200810252326.00559.ecadre@googlemail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Saturday 25 October 2008 22:51:22 Andrew Lowe wrote:
> > But I do think it is unrelated to Quanta, because your desktop
> > environment should not crash, due to an application playing up
>
> I would tend to agree, which is even more reason for Susan to take it up
> with
> Ubuntu.
>
> --
> Andrew
> http://www.andrew-wigglesworth.co.uk
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:15:44 -0400
> From: Brandon Sussman <Brandon@wrweb.net>
> Subject: Re: [Quanta] Quanta Crashes
> To: quanta@mail.kde.org
> Message-ID: <200810251915.44816.Brandon@wrweb.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Saturday 25 October 2008 18:25:59 Andrew Wigglesworth wrote:
> > On Saturday 25 October 2008 22:51:22 Andrew Lowe wrote:
> > > But I do think it is unrelated to Quanta, because your desktop
> > > environment should not crash, due to an application playing up
> >
> > I would tend to agree, which is even more reason for Susan to take it up
> > with Ubuntu.
>
> I have been using Quanta happily for several years with Ubuntu and Kubuntu
> with no issues. Be sure to bear in mind the differences between the two -
> I
> bet this turns out to be a Ubuntu/Kubuntu difference - a flaw in install
> dependencies due to the fact that bits of the KDE environment get installed
> to allow Quanta to run in a primarily Gnome environment.
>
>
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Thanks for all the advice, I have submitted the bug, I see one other person has also \
reported it. I will try Sitecopy as it looks good. I think I will also get hold \
of Konqueror too as it may help with stability.<br><br>Cheers,<br> \
Susan<br><br> <br clear="all">Penterprises Creative Solutions<br><a \
href="mailto:penterprises.creative.solutions@googlemail.com">penterprises.creative.solutions@googlemail.com</a><br><a \
href="http://www.penterprises-creative-solutions.co.uk">www.penterprises-creative-solutions.co.uk</a><br>
<br>OPC for Lanteglos-by-Fowey<br><a \
href="http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Par_new/l_m/lanteglos_fowey.php">http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Par_new/l_m/lanteglos_fowey.php</a><br><br>OPC \
coordinator for Wiltshire<br><a \
href="http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~engwopcp/">http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~engwopcp/</a><br>
<br>Secretary to the PCC St. Michael's Headingley<br><a \
href="http://www.st-michaels-headingley.org.uk/">http://www.st-michaels-headingley.org.uk/</a><br><br><br>
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1. Re: PHP class completion (Melchior Mazzone)<br>
2. Re: PHP class completion (Niko Sams)<br>
3. Re: Quanta Crashes (Susan Penter)<br>
4. Re: Quanta Crashes (Niko Sams)<br>
5. Re: Quanta Crashes (Andrew Wigglesworth)<br>
6. Re: Quanta Crashes (Andrew Lowe)<br>
7. Re: Quanta Crashes (Andrew Wigglesworth)<br>
8. Re: Quanta Crashes (Andrew Wigglesworth)<br>
9. Re: Quanta Crashes (Brandon Sussman)<br>
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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:33:37 +1030<br>
From: Melchior Mazzone <<a \
href="mailto:melchior@themazzone.com">melchior@themazzone.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Quanta] PHP class completion<br>
To: Quanta users list <<a \
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:30:29 pm Niko Sams wrote:<br>
> The CodeCompletion for Quanta3 is pretty simple. It parses the current<br>
> file plus included files.<br>
> But it doesn't know about other classes/functions that might be<br>
> avaliable in the current file.<br>
<br>
This mostly works for me - it's loading the classes (and methods) out of my<br>
included files, it just misses some of them. Is the only way to refresh the<br>
cache to reload the project? (assuming there is a cache).<br>
<br>
> Quanta4 will solve this by showing every class and function in the<br>
> currently open projects.<br>
<br>
This will be awesome. I look forward to it! :)<br>
<br>
Melchior<br>
<br>
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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:13:25 +0200<br>
From: "Niko Sams" <<a \
href="mailto:niko.sams@gmail.com">niko.sams@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Quanta] PHP class completion<br>
To: "Melchior Mazzone" <<a \
href="mailto:melchior@themazzone.com">melchior@themazzone.com</a>>, \
"Quanta users list"<br> <<a \
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> This mostly works for me - it's loading the classes (and methods) out of \
my<br> > included files, it just misses some of them. Is the only way to \
refresh the<br> > cache to reload the project? (assuming there is a \
cache).<br> Sorry, but i know nothing about the internals of Quanta3<br>
<br>
Niko<br>
<br>
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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:56:29 +0100<br>
From: "Susan Penter" <<a \
href="mailto:susan.penter@gmail.com">susan.penter@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Quanta] Quanta Crashes<br>
To: <a href="mailto:Quanta@mail.kde.org">Quanta@mail.kde.org</a><br>
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what exactly do you mean "crashes Ubuntu"?<br>
what protocol does the upload site use, and does it work in konqueror?<br>
<br>
1) the screen goes black shows some text and then I get my login window.<br>
<br>
2) The site uses FTP and the same settings work fine in both filezilla or<br>
Kompozer. I do not use Konqueror I have Ubuntu and use Firefox.<br>
<br>
I have several sites set up now to upload but I can't trust the upload to<br>
web button at all, occasionally it has given me the menu so I can choose the<br>
pages and then it uploads quickly like a dream however yesterday it crashed<br>
- see above and then I opened Quanta and tried again and it crashed again.<br>
It is a bit of a pain but I'm having to do the work in Qunata and then go<br>
across to Filezilla to upload it - unless there is a bug fix I do not have<br>
the time to keep re loging in and having to open all my software each time.<br>
<br>
Thanks for any advice (I am an advanced user but not a programmer but I can<br>
follow instructions)<br>
<br>
Susan<br>
<br>
--<br>
OPC for Lanteglos-by-Fowey<br>
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target="_blank">http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Par_new/l_m/lanteglos_fowey.php</a><br> \
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> 1) the screen goes black shows some text and then I get my login window.<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:49:10 +0100<br>
From: Andrew Wigglesworth <<a \
href="mailto:ecadre@googlemail.com">ecadre@googlemail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Quanta] Quanta Crashes<br>
To: Quanta users list <<a \
href="mailto:quanta@mail.kde.org">quanta@mail.kde.org</a>><br>
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On Saturday 25 October 2008 14:56:29 Susan Penter wrote:<br>
> what exactly do you mean "crashes Ubuntu"?<br>
> what protocol does the upload site use, and does it work in konqueror?<br>
><br>
> 1) the screen goes black shows some text and then I get my login window.<br>
><br>
> 2) The site uses FTP and the same settings work fine in both filezilla or<br>
> Kompozer. I do not use Konqueror I have Ubuntu and use Firefox.<br>
><br>
> I have several sites set up now to upload but I can't trust the upload \
to<br> > web button at all, occasionally it has given me the menu so I can \
choose<br> > the pages and then it uploads quickly like a dream however yesterday \
it<br> > crashed - see above and then I opened Quanta and tried again and it \
crashed<br> > again. It is a bit of a pain but I'm having to do the work in \
Qunata and<br> > then go across to Filezilla to upload it - unless there is \
a bug fix I do<br> > not have the time to keep re loging in and having to open all \
my software<br> > each time.<br>
><br>
> Thanks for any advice (I am an advanced user but not a programmer but I can<br>
> follow instructions)<br>
><br>
> Susan<br>
<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
I think you should look at maybe placing a bug report with Ubuntu, they are<br>
the ones who compiled your installation of Quanta, and will be the only ones<br>
who can begin to try to sort it it out.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/community/reportproblem" \
target="_blank">http://www.ubuntu.com/community/reportproblem</a><br> <br>
This is not a process of fobbing you off, it's just that in the GNU/Linux<br>
world, this is the way that things happen. It's unlikely that anyone on this<br>
list will be able to answer your specific problem (unless they're the Debian<br>
or Ubuntu Quanta package maintainer).<br>
<br>
The point being, that Ubuntu derive their packaging from Debian who take it<br>
from the individual projects and adapt stuff to work together as the Debian<br>
GNU/Linux distribution. Ubuntu of course also make changes themselves, so<br>
this is where you should start. If the problem arises further upstream then<br>
Ubuntu will pass it on to Debian, who themselves may pass information onto<br>
Quanta or some other project if they themselves did not originate the<br>
problem.<br>
<br>
The "other project" stuff may be an issue here, since the operating system \
is<br> complex, the problem could well have nothing to do with Quanta at all.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Andrew<br>
<a href="http://www.andrew-wigglesworth.co.uk" \
target="_blank">http://www.andrew-wigglesworth.co.uk</a><br> <br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:51:22 +1100<br>
From: Andrew Lowe <<a \
href="mailto:andrew.lowe@manildra.com.au">andrew.lowe@manildra.com.au</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Quanta] Quanta Crashes<br>
To: Quanta users list <<a \
href="mailto:quanta@mail.kde.org">quanta@mail.kde.org</a>><br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:490394DA.6050702@manildra.com.au">490394DA.6050702@manildra.com.au</a>><br>
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Susan Penter wrote:<br>
> what exactly do you mean "crashes Ubuntu"?<br>
> what protocol does the upload site use, and does it work in konqueror?<br>
><br>
> 1) the screen goes black shows some text and then I get my login window.<br>
><br>
As Niko said, an application can not crash your window manager/desktop<br>
environment - it sounds like a bug with that...<br>
> 2) The site uses FTP and the same settings work fine in both filezilla<br>
> or Kompozer. I do not use Konqueror I have Ubuntu and use Firefox.<br>
><br>
The reason Konqueror is suggested is because KDE applications all use<br>
KIO slaves to do work with files, this way we can be transparently<br>
working over ftp, sftp, ssh (fish), http, or local files, without the<br>
application having to write its own protocol handler. If ftp works in<br>
Konqueror, and not in Quanta, then there is something wrong with the way<br>
Quanta is handling the kio slave, else if they both crash, then it would<br>
be a bug with the kio slave. You could try Kate or kwrite or any other<br>
kde application that supports your protocol, just to test this<br>
functionality.<br>
And Konqueror is a most excellent advanced file manager that can work on<br>
remote files just as well as local, not just a browser...<br>
> I have several sites set up now to upload but I can't trust the upload<br>
> to web button at all, occasionally it has given me the menu so I can<br>
> choose the pages and then it uploads quickly like a dream however<br>
> yesterday it crashed - see above and then I opened Quanta and tried<br>
> again and it crashed again. It is a bit of a pain but I'm having \
to<br> > do the work in Qunata and then go across to Filezilla to upload it \
-<br> > unless there is a bug fix I do not have the time to keep re loging in<br>
> and having to open all my software each time.<br>
><br>
To check if it is a problem with a config file, you could try to rename<br>
the quanta config file from ~/.kde/share/config/quantarc - it contains<br>
all the settings changes for quanta. Re-naming lets you copy it back if<br>
need be.<br>
You might also want to re-create the project, as it could be a setting<br>
in there causing problems...<br>
But I do think it is unrelated to Quanta, because your desktop<br>
environment should not crash, due to an application playing up<br>
<br>
Also provide version number of Quanta and KDE - in Quanta, go to<br>
help->about and post the Quanta and KDE versions<br>
<br>
Andrew Lowe<br>
<br>
> Thanks for any advice (I am an advanced user but not a programmer but<br>
> I can follow instructions)<br>
><br>
> Susan<br>
><br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:03:51 +0100<br>
From: Andrew Wigglesworth <<a \
href="mailto:ecadre@googlemail.com">ecadre@googlemail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Quanta] Quanta Crashes<br>
To: Quanta users list <<a \
href="mailto:quanta@mail.kde.org">quanta@mail.kde.org</a>><br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:200810252303.53358.ecadre@googlemail.com">200810252303.53358.ecadre@googlemail.com</a>><br>
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Oh, and on the website updating issue. You really should not be forced to \
use<br> programmes like filezilla et al.<br>
<br>
Personally, I don't use the site updater in Quanta very much as I prefer to<br>
use other methods.<br>
<br>
If you are using ftp to update your website, then you should have a look at<br>
the excellent little utility "sitecopy". You can install it through \
aptitude<br> using the following command:<br>
<br>
apitude install sitecopy<br>
<br>
You can of course also use whatever gui packagemanager you wish, just<br>
remembering the name is "sitecopy".<br>
<br>
<br>
### Description from the sitecopy man page ###<br>
sitecopy is for copying locally stored web sites to remote web servers. \
A<br> single command will upload files to the server which have changed \
locally,<br> and delete files from the server which \
have been removed locally, to<br> keep the remote site \
synchronized with the local site. The aim is to remove<br> the hassle of \
uploading and deleting individual files using an \
FTP<br> client. Sitecopy will also optionally try to spot files you move \
locally,<br> and move them remotely.<br>
#########################<br>
<br>
--<br>
Andrew<br>
<a href="http://www.andrew-wigglesworth.co.uk" \
target="_blank">http://www.andrew-wigglesworth.co.uk</a><br> <br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:25:59 +0100<br>
From: Andrew Wigglesworth <<a \
href="mailto:ecadre@googlemail.com">ecadre@googlemail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Quanta] Quanta Crashes<br>
To: Quanta users list <<a \
href="mailto:quanta@mail.kde.org">quanta@mail.kde.org</a>><br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:200810252326.00559.ecadre@googlemail.com">200810252326.00559.ecadre@googlemail.com</a>><br>
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On Saturday 25 October 2008 22:51:22 Andrew Lowe wrote:<br>
> But I do think it is unrelated to Quanta, because your desktop<br>
> environment should not crash, due to an application playing up<br>
<br>
I would tend to agree, which is even more reason for Susan to take it up with<br>
Ubuntu.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Andrew<br>
<a href="http://www.andrew-wigglesworth.co.uk" \
target="_blank">http://www.andrew-wigglesworth.co.uk</a><br> <br>
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Message: 9<br>
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:15:44 -0400<br>
From: Brandon Sussman <<a \
href="mailto:Brandon@wrweb.net">Brandon@wrweb.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Quanta] Quanta Crashes<br>
To: <a href="mailto:quanta@mail.kde.org">quanta@mail.kde.org</a><br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:200810251915.44816.Brandon@wrweb.net">200810251915.44816.Brandon@wrweb.net</a>><br>
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On Saturday 25 October 2008 18:25:59 Andrew Wigglesworth wrote:<br>
> On Saturday 25 October 2008 22:51:22 Andrew Lowe wrote:<br>
> > But I do think it is unrelated to Quanta, because your desktop<br>
> > environment should not crash, due to an application playing up<br>
><br>
> I would tend to agree, which is even more reason for Susan to take it up<br>
> with Ubuntu.<br>
<br>
I have been using Quanta happily for several years with Ubuntu and Kubuntu<br>
with no issues. Be sure to bear in mind the differences between the two - I<br>
bet this turns out to be a Ubuntu/Kubuntu difference - a flaw in install<br>
dependencies due to the fact that bits of the KDE environment get installed<br>
to allow Quanta to run in a primarily Gnome environment.<br>
<br>
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