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List:       kdepim-users
Subject:    Re: [kdepim-users] Journal Usability Cleanup
From:       Allen Winter <winter () kde ! org>
Date:       2006-10-01 15:38:28
Message-ID: 200610011138.28309.winter () kde ! org
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On Sunday 01 October 2006 06:01, Mihnea Capraru wrote:
> I am making use of KOrganizer's journal facility on a regular basis, and in 
> time I have come to realize that certain things don't belong there, or at 
> least they don't seem to belong there and I can't imagine a proper use for 
> them.
> 
Thanks for your input Mihnea.  These are issues that are best brought to
the attention of us developers on kde-pim@kde.org, or better yet, through bugs.kde.org.

> First and foremost the Date and Time inputs: a journal is implicitly 
> chronological, each entry pertains to the date and time when it was written.
> When people who keep a journal enter something about yesterday, they don't 
> start by claiming that the entry as such has been written yesterday. They 
> instead start their entry with "Yesterday...".
> 
> Please simply record the date and time when the entry was written, and remove 
> the date/time inputs from the GUI.  
>
But what if I want forgot to write yesterday's journal and this morning I decide to write it?
Isn't it Ok the way it is with the default date setting?
 
> Second comes the Attendees tab (and thereby the whole tabbar, since it only 
> contains two tabs altogether). What does it mean in this context? It's 
> cetainly useful to keep track of attendees while planning for certain events 
> within KOrganizer, but planning for events is one context and writing a 
> journal entry is a completely different context. One is about the future, the 
> other about the past, one has to do with distribution lists while the other 
> one is normally private etc. 
> 
> Please remove the Attendees tab from the journal entry dialog, if there really 
> is no  non-abusive use for it.
> 
You have a good point here.  I can't think of a good reason for Journal attendees.
Anyone??

> Third comes the title field. Frankly I'm not sure about this, perhaps it makes 
> sense to leave it in. But at any rate it makes sense to at least think about 
> dropping it, because journal entries tend to be and certainly can be 
> identified by their date and time, and this is how they normally do get 
> identified in real world journals (who has time to invent a matching title 
> every time? ;-) )
> 
Another good point.  What if we fill in a default title like "Journal for <date>" ??
Seems like something we shouldn't remove since sometimes you will want a title.

> Thank you for reading this,
> 	
Sure.   Admittedly, KOrganizer's journal feature hasn't gotten as much love as the other parts.

Regards,
Allen
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