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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Default kicker postion
From:       Ra1n <pk20it () yahoo ! it>
Date:       2004-06-09 20:48:20
Message-ID: 40C77794.9000805 () yahoo ! it
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Harijs Buss wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 June 2004 11:04, Dan Jensen rakstija:
> 
> 
>>actually trying it first. So I did, and apart from the small space
>>available for the taskbar in tiny mode, it works great!
> 
> 
> Good. Another one who at least tried ;-)
Personally I use this layout from kde 2, I find it quit usable and not 
windows-like (I must remember that windows uses the same panel size only 
at bottom and without applets, only menu,taskbar, systray with 
integrated clock and a few launchers,removed by default by XP)
> 
> 
>>  What icons in the system tray don't resize? 
> 
> 
> AFAIK almost all of them do. Some applets however are unusable at "tiny" size. 
> Some need adjustment, e.g. one usually needs to take off date from Clock and 
> change font. 
Yes date wastes a lot of space in this way, and only plain or digital 
clock are usable
> 
>>  On the topic on space, how does this work in 800x600?
> 
> 
> Badly.  But it works badly in bottom position as well at such low resolution. 
> 
> 
>>  It has long been decided that KDE must at all cost work in 800x600. 
> 
> 
> Oh yes, and "640 Kb should be enough for everybody"...  De facto lowest  
> standard right now is perhaps 1280x1024.  At least among people who pay for 
> new distros... <no offence>   1600x1200 is quite popular among CRT monitor 
> users and 1280x1024 among LCD screen users, only because higher resolutions 
> are too expensive yet.  General tendency is to have really big screens and 
> high resolution, certainly within affordable money limits. 
> 
I agree with this point, today the lowest res is 1024x768, is quite 
common, I use it even on my 19" CRT(a bad CRT :-O ) and looks good
> 
>>  Should the general layout of the kicker be changed? 
> 
> 
> I would better teach people how to use child panels.  I do (another "tiny" 
> panel at the top of screen) and this seems to be the right way. Everything I 
> need for everydays job, grouped as I like.  
>
Why not propose a couple of layouts with kpersonalizer, for example with 
tiny bar on top and a medium sized child panel with taskbar pager and 
other applets?

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