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Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] Who do we target,
From:       Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab () yahoo ! de>
Date:       2006-06-09 16:37:31
Message-ID: 200606091837.35038.arne_bab () yahoo ! de
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I just looked through old posts, and I realized, I never said "wow". 

So I'll do it now. 

Wow! 
Quite a deep analysis, I think. 

Thanks! 

Arne

Am Freitag 24 März 2006 03:31 schrieb Danil Dotsenko:
> Thursday 23 March 2006 14:00 Sebastian Kügler:
> > Triple-, I think. "What is KDE for {users|developers|companies}?", very
> > roughly?
>
> I thought this was discussed many times already. :)
>
> The "developers / companies" divide may be misleading, because both groups
> are "developers."  You probably meant "Enthusiast developers / Commercial
> developers"
>
> Just for practice I brainstormed a bit. (Business degree here :) ) Then,
> added KDE-centric analysis to it.
> (Declaimer: This is a VERY general judgment)
>
> I. USERS
> I.a. "OS is somewhat irrelevant, what matters is what I can do on it."
> I.b. "Yet, if I ask my neighbor about some problem with computer, he better
> be familiar with it."
> I.c. "How easily can I get it (KDE, linux, whatever), and how soon will it
> start doing what I want (chat; steal music from net; search for porno;
> check out shoes, handbags and cosmetics; run the Tax software, be able to
> fill out those government PDF forms)?"
>
> KDE-centric view on "USERS":
> I.a. Screenshots and semi-centralized (for ease of searching) / edited
> blogs about the multitude of programs and uses of KDE are needed. There was
> the "KDE Mag" idea thrown around. A mag, or a User-centric planet-kde-like
> stream would do wanders. After I am done with my CFA exam (4 june) I will
> start "KDE World Software Gems" series on my blog. If it gets picked up by
> either, better. We need to show the breadth of uses. A lot of this thinking
> went into the KDE 3.5.x screenshots I am helping with.
> I.b. We need to say to people "KDE has millions of "neighbors" on-line
> now." Aside from forums.kde.org, there are lots of distro-centric forums,
> that are usually much more useful in solving KDE issues. (linuxquestion.org
> for Slackware for example) We can list them next to the distro list
> discussed earlier.
> I.c. See the distro list discussed under "KDE banners and such stuff" for
> "How to get it easily?" See I.a. for the rest"
> All-in-all, the picture is relatively good. The problem is no many users
> know about it.
>
> II. ENTHUSIAST DEVELOPER:
> II.a. "Give me full control, yet make it easier to get the project done!"
> II.b. "Make sure that whatever I write will be accessible and liked by as
> many users as possible = boundless sense of accomplishment and/or credits /
> experience toward that actual, PAID job."
> II.c. "I want a free platform that allows me to show quickly full extent of
> my ingenuity and skills"
>
> KDE-centric view on "ENTHUSIAST DEVELOPER":
> II.a. Sold. Any detractors? Just look on kde-apps and you get the picture.
> II.b see II.a. Need more "enthusiast to paid developer / associated
> commercial success" stories. I hope we have them.
> II.c. See II.a.
> The picture is the best of all platforms. Lets keep it up.
>
> III. NICHE MARKET (relatively smaller volumes) COMMERCIAL DEV:
> (CAD joints like Autodesk, large Accounting / CRM package joints, to some
> degree Adobe)
> III.a. "If I write for a platform, it is better to be stable (less support
> issues), or controlled by me (can predict and control support issues)" "If
> I write high-price software, the cost of OS is irrelevant. The user will
> run the OS I tell them to run."
>
> KDE-centric view on "NICHE MARKET COMMERCIAL DEV:"
> III.a. "Stable and controllable" may be achieved with RedHat and Suse-like
> platforms and "community-based" stable platforms to only a small degree.
> Stability of a platform is usually measured by money behind it.  RedHat is
> pretty much a lost cause, they gave up on "Linux on desktop" long time ago.
> Suse's 10.1 is shaping up to be the best-featured KDE (imo) PRO linux
> desktop. This hissy-feat crap about "we are not No1 there" has to stop.
> Otherwise, we will stop being even No2. KDE devs have to hide their
> religious disgust with Novel, because you are the only people who are
> disgusted about it. Engage instead. Better for us all. We have to stop
> spitting in the hand that feeds many of us. The hand has its dignity too.
> Once, again, we return to "plugging" the "KDE-friendly" distros on the
> kde.org web site.
> The picture here is muddy. We need segregate less-emotional people into a
> "business face" group.
>
> IV. MASS MARKET (larger volumes, lower prices) COMMERCIAL DEV:
> (Intuit, what used to be Macromedia,  thousand ISVs that write custom DB
> frontends for places like real estate, medical offices.)
> IV.a. "we write for the platform our potential client will have all his
> other software on. So, if they use MS Office (crap load of offices use
> Excel spreadsheets tweaked out with macros in VB for example) for it's
> core, we will try to augment and build around that. Not, revolutionize."
>
> KDE-centric view on "MASS MARKET COMMERCIAL DEV:"
> IV.a. With KDE 3.x no chance we can promote to them. It's the already
> discussed issue of "Do I code for QT (multiplatform) or KDE (not)?" Many
> commercial-oriented projects just went with QT.
> With the "XML-based signaling of supported features" and KDE/QT
> "transparency" idea that came up for 4 series we have a HUGE opportunity to
> make any QT multi-platform app - a KDE "native" app. We really need to
> prepare to promote that like there's no tomorrow. It really saves us from
> having to port kdelibs to Windows.
> The picture here, presently sucks, but looks awesome 2 years down the line.
> Let's hope we don't die by then.

-- 
Unpolitisch sein
Heißt politsch sein
Ohne es zu merken. 
- Arne Babenhauserheide ( http://draketo.de )

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