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Subject: Re: ACLs in Kivio
From: Shawn Gordon <shawn () thekompany ! com>
Date: 2001-04-30 20:33:35
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Ok - here is the meatiest thread on the topic and maybe someone in here has
some idea of what happened. Let me say as a preamble, the version in CVS
when we announced the 1.0 availability worked fine. As best I can tell the
only thing we did was update the splash screen. There was a situation just
prior to that when the Python dependency got activated or something
somehow. The key date here is April 13, it all worked at that point. And
to answer another question about releasing Kivio separately, we will be
making feature distinctions in Kivio that would justify a 1.1, 1.2, 2.0
etc., It's not that it is to be considered separate, but I would think
that all of the applications would hit certain plateaus on their own
outside of the entire KOffice release schedule. Actually, I'm not sure
what dictates a new KOffice release at this stage. If Kivio reaching 1.1
is a milestone event for KOffice, then by all means, let's do KOffice
1.2. I imagine there really should be some discussion on this, including
version numbers.
here is the thread (starts with David Faures response to my last question
to him)
No.
This connector dlopening stuff is your magic (well kivio's), and I don't
know anything about it. The bit about an undefined symbol etc. can easily
be investigated with "nm", btw. Other than that, accusing
autoconf/automake is a bit wrong here, I would rather accuse libltdl,
unless it's a bug in kivio itself. Michael Matz might be able to help, but
explaining how kivio loads up connectors would help - same for me, I don't
know how it's supposed to work. Testing with the version of libltdl before
matz's big commit might provide a clue too.
David.
On Monday 30 April 2001 08:09, Shawn Gordon wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> We seem to be getting out of our depth here other than narrowing it
> down. Does anyone in the KDE team have any thoughts as to what is going on
> here?
>
> thanks,
> shawn
>
> >Subject: Fw: RE: Kivio connector tool problems
> >To: shawn@thekompany.com
> From: Dave Marotti <lndshark@speakeasy.net>
> >Reply-to:
> >Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 21:36 -0700
> >X-mailer: Speakeasy Network Webmail v1.0 [J. Beck, G. Morris]
> >
> >You might want to forward this to a few people. This guy I've been
> >talking with trying to resolve the connector problem found a strange
> >solution (that shouldn't work). This is definitely a build problem or
> >something. Read the attached email...
> >
> >-dave
> >
> >------------ Original Message -----------
> From: Brandon Zehm <BZehm@criadvantage.com>
> >Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 02:24:52 -0600
> >
> >Well, I found a way to make it work!
> >
> >$ cd $KDEDIR/share/apps/kivio/autoloadStencils
> >$ mv straight_connector.ksp straight_connector.ksp.bak
> >$ cp $KDEDIR/lib/libkivioconnectortool.so ./straight_connector.ksp
> >
> >Then run kivio. It works! I'm not sure why, but it tries loading the
> >'new'
> >straight_connector.ksp and successfully loads but gives the error message:
> >
> >dlsym failed for NewStencil():
> >/usr/local/kde/share/apps/kivio/autoloadStencils/straight_connector.ksp:
> >undefined symbol: NewStencil
> >
> >Then it tries loading the 'real' straight_connector.ksp.bak and succeeds
> >(why?)
> >
> >Then once kivio finishes starting up everything works. Any thoughts?
> >
> >-Brandon_Z
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> From: Landshark [mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net]
> >Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:51 PM
> >To: Brandon Zehm
> >Subject: Re: Kivio connector tool problems
> >
> >
> >Hey Brandon,
> >
> >Unfortunately, my guess is that it's a makefile error, not a source-code
> >error. If this is the case, I'll never find the problem because I don't
> >understand automake/autoconf (I hate them actually =). I hope one of
> >the koffice developers finds it.
> >
> >-dave
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 09:29:26PM -0600, Brandon Zehm wrote:
> > > Hi Dave,
> > >
> > > Unfortunatly that didn't work either. Well, I'll keep poking around in
> >the
> > > source. I probably won't find anything, but who knows :)
> > > If you have anything more for me to test or want me to try something
> >else
> > > just let me know.
> > >
> > > Brandon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Landshark [mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net]
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:10 PM
> > > To: Brandon Zehm
> > > Subject: Re: Kivio connector tool problems
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Brandon,
> > >
> > > Actually, I was afraid of that. This is what everyone seems to be
> > > having problems with and I haven't any idea why. One guy did some
> > > debugging and noted that it was getting an unresolved symbol - which is
> > > really odd since it never did before.
> > >
> > > Can you try one more thing: run kivio with the full path. In other
> > > words, /usr/bin/full/path/to/kivio
> > >
> > > Someone else reported that this worked for them.
> > >
> > > -dave
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 08:47:17PM -0600, Brandon Zehm wrote:
> > > > Actually yes, I do get that message:
> > > > kivio: KivioPluginStencilSpawner::load() -
> > > >
> >/usr/local/kde/share/apps/kivio/autoloadStencils/straight_connector.ksp
> >is
> > > > not a dll
> > > > I checked and the file does exsist.
> > > >
> > > > Hey, no problem about slow responses. I cam completly understand. A
> >lot
> > > of
> > > > days I feel the same after coming home from work. I just want to play
> > > cards
> > > > or take a walk - the computer is the last thing on my mind.
> > > >
> > > > Brandon Zehm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Dave Marotti [mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 8:10 PM
> > > > To: Brandon Zehm
> > > > Subject: Re: Kivio connector tool problems
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sorry I'm a bit slow on getting to this (coming home from my job
> >working
> > > 8-9
> > > > hours as a programmer, only to do more programming doesn't always mix
> >with
> > > > me). There is a function called findInternalSpawner I think, which is
> > > > called in tool_connector.cpp (in kivioconnectortool). This function
> >is
> > > what
> > > > is failing - probably because the .ksp file didn't load.
> > > >
> > > > In your startup messages for kivio, does it say
> >"straight_connector.ksp
> > > > failed to load" or "straight_connector.ksp is not a DLL" or anything
> >like
> > > > that?
> > > >
> > > > -dave
> > > >
> > > > > ------------ Original Message -----------
> > > > > From: Brandon Zehm <BZehm@criadvantage.com>
> > > > > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:56:29 -0600
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, if you can give me a clue where to start looking I can try to
> > > start
> > > > > testing stuff on my own.
> > > > >
> > > > > As I said I'm not a real c programmer, and I've never coded
anything
> >for
> > > > > X,
> > > > > but I have written a few small console apps in c. I wrote an audio
> > > mixer
> > > > > in
> > > > > c for linux called lmixer, and I'm currently working on an mp3
> >player
> > > > > written in c for my car stereo computer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, what files should I be looking in? Is it strictly something
> >in
> > > > > the
> > > > > files under ~/plugins/kivioconnectortool/* or could/would it
involve
> > > other
> > > > > things? if so where?
> > > > >
> > > > > .bz
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: lndshark@speakeasy.net [mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 3:46 PM
> > > > > To: Brandon Zehm
> > > > > Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: Kivio connector tool problems
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Well crap =) This pisses me off. It worked a little while ago, and
> >now
> > > > > tons of people are having these problems with the connector. Worse
> >yet
> > > is
> > > > > that I haven't modified the code in a long time!
> > > > >
> > > > > -dave
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Original Message --
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, I can try -- however, I recently installed slack on a totally
> > > clean
> > > > > box and compiled kde/koffice from scratch and it still had this
> >exact
> > > same
> > > > > problem. So I'm pretty sure its not a problem with old files laying
> > > > > around.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > OK,
> > > > >
> > > > > $ cd /usr/local/kde (my $KDEDIR)
> > > > > $ find -iname *.KSP
> > > > > > ./share/apps/kivio/autoloadStencils/straight_connector.ksp
> > > > > > ./share/templates/.source/SpreadSheet.ksp
> > > > > $ find -iname *libkivio*
> > > > > > ./lib/kde2/libkiviopart.so
> > > > > > ./lib/kde2/libkiviopart.la
> > > > > > ./lib/libkivioconnectortool.so
> > > > > > ./lib/libkivioconnectortool.la
> > > > > > ./lib/.... (insert text/select/zoom tool libs here)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks pretty clean to me.. I did try to clean things up as much
as I
> > > could
> > > > > before I installed the latest koffice (i.e. cleaning kde's shared
> > > > > directories and home directory from anything kivio/koffice
related.)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > .bz
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: lndshark@speakeasy.net [mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 1:48 PM
> > > > > To: Brandon Zehm
> > > > > Subject: Re: RE: RE: Kivio connector tool problems
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey Brandon,
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you by any chance have and old set of kivio pieces laying around
> >on
> > > > > your
> > > > > system?
> > > > >
> > > > > Could you try uninstalling any previous installation, then do a
> >search
> > > for
> > > > > *kivio* and *ksp (<--- be careful since those are kspread files
> >too).
> > > > > Specifically, you should be looking for libkivio stuff and
> > > > > straight_connector.ksp.
> > > > >
> > > > > This will make sure there aren't old versions being picked up
during
> > > > > runtime.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then reinstall and try running it.
> > > > >
> > > > > -dave
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Original Message --
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > Sure enough. After recompiling kivio I recompiled kivio and try
> >to
> > > > > create
> > > > > a line it says 'StraightConnector not found'. If I cd
> > > > > $KDEDIR/share/apps/kivio and do a find -iname I get:
> > > > > ./autoloadStencils/straight_connector.ksp
> > > > > ./autoloadStencils/straight_connector.xpm
> > > > >
> > > > > So, what do you think?
> > > > >
> > > > > Brandon Zehm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: lndshark@speakeasy.net [mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:10 PM
> > > > > To: Brandon Zehm
> > > > > Subject: Re: RE: Kivio connector tool problems
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Brandon,
> > > > >
> > > > > I had gotten a few reports like this before, but most had been
fixed
> > > after
> > > > > the i18n issue patch.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you do this:
> > > > >
> > > > > in plugins/kivioconnectortool/tool_connector.cpp around line 150,
> >you
> > > > > should
> > > > > see this:
> > > > > if(!ss)
> > > > > return false;
> > > > >
> > > > > Please change it to:
> > > > > if(!ss) {
> > > > > kdDebug() << "StraightConnector not found\n";
> > > > > return false;
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > And then recompile.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm willing to bet you will see "kivio: StraightConnector not
found"
> >in
> > > > > the
> > > > > output.
> > > > >
> > > > > If this is the case, can you go to $KDEDIR/share/apps/kivio and do:
> > > > >
> > > > > find -name "*Straight*" -print
> > > > >
> > > > > and tell me what that prints?
> > > > >
> > > > > -dave
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Original Message --
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW I am sending this message directly to you, since it seemed more
> > > > > appropriate for this message.
> > > > >
> > > > > To answer your question, yes, when I push the connector tool icon
> >the
> > > > > mouse
> > > > > cursor changes to a line with a plus on it. When watching form the
> > > > > console
> > > > > I see the message: "kivio: ConnectorTool activate". Everything
> >looks
> > > like
> > > > > its going to work, but no matter what I try when you try to connect
> >two
> > > > > objects it just won't create any lines whatsoever.
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW my friend Paul is having the exact same problem on his system
> >too.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am definatly available to do testing with you. If you want me to
> >try
> > > > > compiling a copy with some debugging turned on, or whatever, I will
> >be
> > > > > more
> > > > > than glad to help. I'm not an expert coder, but I know some C and I
> > > know
> > > > > bash/perl/php very well.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Brandon Zehm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Dave Marotti [mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:55 PM
> > > > > To: koffice@master.kde.org
> > > > > Subject: RE: Kivio connector tool problems
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That's even more odd. I can't think of anything that would cause
> >that
> > > > > other
> > > > > than the plugin not loading. Does the cursor change to a line with
> >a
> > > > > plus?
> > > > >
> > > > > The only way I can see to debug this would be to insert some
> >debugging
> > > > > statements into the activate and mouseDown code.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll get back in contact with you later tonight, I'm at work right
> >now.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -dave
> > > > >
> > > > > > ------------ Original Message -----------
> > > > > > From: Brandon Zehm <BZehm@criadvantage.com>
> > > > > > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:57:05 -0600
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No actually. I am using the standard english version (no i18n
> >stuff).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: lndshark@speakeasy.net [mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 9:07 PM
> > > > > > To: koffice@max.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Kivio connector tool problems
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey Brandon,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are you by chance using a non-english version of Kivio?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -dave
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- Original Message --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > I have been trying to get Kivio working now for a few weeks with
> >no
> > > > > luck.
> > > > > > The basic synopsis is that the connector tool in Kivio is not
> >working
> > > at
> > > > > > all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I usually download koffice from cvs and compile it myself.
> >Everything
> > > > > > compiles fine with no errors, installs fine, and runs fine --
> >except
> > > > > > Kivio's
> > > > > > connector tool. I have tried this on multiple systems and every
> >one
> > > has
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > same result.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here is some basic points:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - My system is Slackware >=7.1, XFree86 4.02, QT 2.30 (compiled
> >myself
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > xft), KDE 2.11 (also compiled myself), Perl 5.6, Python (1.5 and
> >2.1),
> > > > > > Koffice >= beta1, anything I'm missing?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - I have tried several versions of koffice, usually downloaded
> >from
> > > cvs.
> > > > > > The latest one I tried was just a few days ago, I think on 4-20.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - All of KOffice compiles fine. No fatal warnings or errors that
> >I
> > > > > seen.
> > > > > > Everything installs fine. Kivio starts right up just fine (nice
> >v1.0
> > > > > > graphic too).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Once in Kivio when I select the 'Connector Tool' the only
> >message
> >I
> > > > > get
> > > > > > (when watching from the console) is:
> > > > > > > kivio: ConnectorTool activate
> > > > > > > QPixmap::convertToImage: Connot convert a null pixmap
> > > > > > > QPixmap::convertFromImage: Connot convert a null image
> > > > > > > QPixmap::convertFromImage: Connot convert a null image
> > > > > > The null image message doesn't seem to be a problem. It shows
> >that
> > > > > > several
> > > > > > times while the program is starting up.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Some of the older versions of Kivio worked fine (so yes, I know
> >what
> > > > > the
> > > > > > connector tool is and that I have to use it to connect objects :)
> >-
> > > just
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > last few releases seem to be broken.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have tried installing Koffice on several systems, some
> >clean/new,
> > > some
> > > > > > old. A friend of mine tried it on his system and had the exact
> >same
> > > > > > results
> > > > > > too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any thoughts? What am I doing right/wrong?
> > > > > > I would love to start using Kivio if I could just connect
objects!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brandon Zehm
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Ok - here is the meatiest thread on the topic and maybe someone in here
has some idea of what happened. Let me say as a preamble, the
version in CVS when we announced the 1.0 availability worked fine.
As best I can tell the only thing we did was update the splash
screen. There was a situation just prior to that when the Python
dependency got activated or something somehow. The key date here is
April 13, it all worked at that point. And to answer another
question about releasing Kivio separately, we will be making feature
distinctions in Kivio that would justify a 1.1, 1.2, 2.0 etc., It's
not that it is to be considered separate, but I would think that all of
the applications would hit certain plateaus on their own outside of the
entire KOffice release schedule. Actually, I'm not sure what
dictates a new KOffice release at this stage. If Kivio reaching 1.1
is a milestone event for KOffice, then by all means, let's do KOffice
1.2. I imagine there really should be some discussion on this,
including version numbers.<br>
<br>
here is the thread (starts with David Faures response to my last question
to him)<br>
<br>
No. <br>
This connector dlopening stuff is your magic (well kivio's), and I don't
know anything about it. The bit about an undefined symbol etc. can easily
be investigated with "nm", btw. Other than that, accusing
autoconf/automake is a bit wrong here, I would rather accuse libltdl,
unless it's a bug in kivio itself. Michael Matz might be able to
help, but explaining how kivio loads up connectors would help - same for
me, I don't know how it's supposed to work. Testing with the version of
libltdl before matz's big commit might provide a clue too.<br>
David.<br>
<br>
On Monday 30 April 2001 08:09, Shawn Gordon wrote: <br>
> Hi David, <br>
> <br>
> We seem to be getting out of our depth here other than narrowing it
<br>
> down. Does anyone in the KDE team have any thoughts as to what is
going on <br>
> here? <br>
> <br>
> thanks, <br>
> shawn <br>
> <br>
> >Subject: Fw: RE: Kivio connector tool problems <br>
> >To: shawn@thekompany.com <br>
> From: Dave Marotti <lndshark@speakeasy.net> <br>
> >Reply-to: <br>
> >Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 21:36 -0700 <br>
> >X-mailer: Speakeasy Network Webmail v1.0 [J. Beck, G. Morris]
<br>
> > <br>
> >You might want to forward this to a few people. This guy I've
been <br>
> >talking with trying to resolve the connector problem found a
strange <br>
> >solution (that shouldn't work). This is definitely a build
problem or <br>
> >something. Read the attached email... <br>
> > <br>
> >-dave <br>
> > <br>
> >------------ Original Message ----------- <br>
> From: Brandon Zehm <BZehm@criadvantage.com> <br>
> >Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 02:24:52 -0600 <br>
> > <br>
> >Well, I found a way to make it work! <br>
> > <br>
> >$ cd $KDEDIR/share/apps/kivio/autoloadStencils <br>
> >$ mv straight_connector.ksp straight_connector.ksp.bak <br>
> >$ cp $KDEDIR/lib/libkivioconnectortool.so
./straight_connector.ksp <br>
> > <br>
> >Then run kivio. It works! I'm not sure why, but it tries loading
the <br>
> >'new' <br>
> >straight_connector.ksp and successfully loads but gives the
error message: <br>
> > <br>
> >dlsym failed for NewStencil(): <br>
>
>/usr/local/kde/share/apps/kivio/autoloadStencils/straight_connector.ksp:
<br>
> >undefined symbol: NewStencil <br>
> > <br>
> >Then it tries loading the 'real' straight_connector.ksp.bak and
succeeds <br>
> >(why?) <br>
> > <br>
> >Then once kivio finishes starting up everything works. Any
thoughts? <br>
> > <br>
> >-Brandon_Z <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> >-----Original Message----- <br>
> From: Landshark
[<a href="mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net" eudora="autourl"><font \
color="#0000FF"><u>mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net</a></u></font>] <br>
> >Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:51 PM <br>
> >To: Brandon Zehm <br>
> >Subject: Re: Kivio connector tool problems <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> >Hey Brandon, <br>
> > <br>
> >Unfortunately, my guess is that it's a makefile error, not a
source-code <br>
> >error. If this is the case, I'll never find the problem because
I don't <br>
> >understand automake/autoconf (I hate them actually =). I hope
one of <br>
> >the koffice developers finds it. <br>
> > <br>
> >-dave <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> >On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 09:29:26PM -0600, Brandon Zehm wrote:
<br>
> > > Hi Dave, <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Unfortunatly that didn't work either. Well, I'll keep
poking around in <br>
> >the <br>
> > > source. I probably won't find anything, but who knows :)
<br>
> > > If you have anything more for me to test or want me to try
something <br>
> >else <br>
> > > just let me know. <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Brandon <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > -----Original Message----- <br>
> > > From: Landshark
[<a href="mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net" eudora="autourl"><font \
color="#0000FF"><u>mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net</a></u></font>] <br>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:10 PM <br>
> > > To: Brandon Zehm <br>
> > > Subject: Re: Kivio connector tool problems <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Hi Brandon, <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Actually, I was afraid of that. This is what everyone
seems to be <br>
> > > having problems with and I haven't any idea why. One guy
did some <br>
> > > debugging and noted that it was getting an unresolved
symbol - which is <br>
> > > really odd since it never did before. <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Can you try one more thing: run kivio with the full path.
In other <br>
> > > words, /usr/bin/full/path/to/kivio <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Someone else reported that this worked for them. <br>
> > > <br>
> > > -dave <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 08:47:17PM -0600, Brandon Zehm
wrote: <br>
> > > > Actually yes, I do get that message: <br>
> > > > kivio: KivioPluginStencilSpawner::load() - <br>
> > > > <br>
>
>/usr/local/kde/share/apps/kivio/autoloadStencils/straight_connector.ksp
<br>
> >is <br>
> > > > not a dll <br>
> > > > I checked and the file does exsist. <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > Hey, no problem about slow responses. I cam completly
understand. A <br>
> >lot <br>
> > > of <br>
> > > > days I feel the same after coming home from work. I
just want to play <br>
> > > cards <br>
> > > > or take a walk - the computer is the last thing on my
mind. <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > Brandon Zehm <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > -----Original Message----- <br>
> > > > From: Dave Marotti
[<a href="mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net" eudora="autourl"><font \
color="#0000FF"><u>mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net</a></u></font>] <br>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 8:10 PM <br>
> > > > To: Brandon Zehm <br>
> > > > Subject: Re: Kivio connector tool problems <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > Sorry I'm a bit slow on getting to this (coming home
from my job <br>
> >working <br>
> > > 8-9 <br>
> > > > hours as a programmer, only to do more programming
doesn't always mix <br>
> >with <br>
> > > > me). There is a function called findInternalSpawner I
think, which is <br>
> > > > called in tool_connector.cpp (in kivioconnectortool).
This function <br>
> >is <br>
> > > what <br>
> > > > is failing - probably because the .ksp file didn't
load. <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > In your startup messages for kivio, does it say
<br>
> >"straight_connector.ksp <br>
> > > > failed to load" or "straight_connector.ksp
is not a DLL" or anything <br>
> >like <br>
> > > > that? <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > -dave <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > > ------------ Original Message ----------- <br>
> > > > > From: Brandon Zehm
<BZehm@criadvantage.com> <br>
> > > > > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:56:29 -0600 <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Well, if you can give me a clue where to start
looking I can try to <br>
> > > start <br>
> > > > > testing stuff on my own. <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > As I said I'm not a real c programmer, and I've
never coded anything <br>
> >for <br>
> > > > > X, <br>
> > > > > but I have written a few small console apps in
c. I wrote an audio <br>
> > > mixer <br>
> > > > > in <br>
> > > > > c for linux called lmixer, and I'm currently
working on an mp3 <br>
> >player <br>
> > > > > written in c for my car stereo computer. <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Anyway, what files should I be looking in? Is it
strictly something <br>
> >in <br>
> > > > > the <br>
> > > > > files under ~/plugins/kivioconnectortool/* or
could/would it involve <br>
> > > other <br>
> > > > > things? if so where? <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > .bz <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > -----Original Message----- <br>
> > > > > From: lndshark@speakeasy.net
[<a href="mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net" eudora="autourl"><font \
color="#0000FF"><u>mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net</a></u></font>] <br>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 3:46 PM <br>
> > > > > To: Brandon Zehm <br>
> > > > > Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: Kivio connector tool
problems <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Well crap =) This pisses me off. It worked a
little while ago, and <br>
> >now <br>
> > > > > tons of people are having these problems with
the connector. Worse <br>
> >yet <br>
> > > is <br>
> > > > > that I haven't modified the code in a long time!
<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > -dave <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > -- Original Message -- <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Well, I can try -- however, I recently installed
slack on a totally <br>
> > > clean <br>
> > > > > box and compiled kde/koffice from scratch and it
still had this <br>
> >exact <br>
> > > same <br>
> > > > > problem. So I'm pretty sure its not a problem
with old files laying <br>
> > > > > around. <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > OK, <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > $ cd /usr/local/kde (my $KDEDIR) <br>
> > > > > $ find -iname *.KSP <br>
> > > > > >
./share/apps/kivio/autoloadStencils/straight_connector.ksp <br>
> > > > > > ./share/templates/.source/SpreadSheet.ksp
<br>
> > > > > $ find -iname *libkivio* <br>
> > > > > > ./lib/kde2/libkiviopart.so <br>
> > > > > > ./lib/kde2/libkiviopart.la <br>
> > > > > > ./lib/libkivioconnectortool.so <br>
> > > > > > ./lib/libkivioconnectortool.la <br>
> > > > > > ./lib/.... (insert text/select/zoom tool
libs here) <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Looks pretty clean to me.. I did try to clean
things up as much as I <br>
> > > could <br>
> > > > > before I installed the latest koffice (i.e.
cleaning kde's shared <br>
> > > > > directories and home directory from anything
kivio/koffice related.) <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > .bz <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > -----Original Message----- <br>
> > > > > From: lndshark@speakeasy.net
[<a href="mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net" eudora="autourl"><font \
color="#0000FF"><u>mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net</a></u></font>] <br>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 1:48 PM <br>
> > > > > To: Brandon Zehm <br>
> > > > > Subject: Re: RE: RE: Kivio connector tool
problems <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Hey Brandon, <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Do you by any chance have and old set of kivio
pieces laying around <br>
> >on <br>
> > > > > your <br>
> > > > > system? <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Could you try uninstalling any previous
installation, then do a <br>
> >search <br>
> > > for <br>
> > > > > *kivio* and *ksp (<--- be careful since those
are kspread files <br>
> >too). <br>
> > > > > Specifically, you should be looking for libkivio
stuff and <br>
> > > > > straight_connector.ksp. <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > This will make sure there aren't old versions
being picked up during <br>
> > > > > runtime. <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Then reinstall and try running it. <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > -dave <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > -- Original Message -- <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Hi Dave, <br>
> > > > > Sure enough. After recompiling kivio I
recompiled kivio and try <br>
> >to <br>
> > > > > create <br>
> > > > > a line it says 'StraightConnector not found'. If
I cd <br>
> > > > > $KDEDIR/share/apps/kivio and do a find -iname I
get: <br>
> > > > > ./autoloadStencils/straight_connector.ksp <br>
> > > > > ./autoloadStencils/straight_connector.xpm <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > So, what do you think? <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Brandon Zehm <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > -----Original Message----- <br>
> > > > > From: lndshark@speakeasy.net
[<a href="mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net" eudora="autourl"><font \
color="#0000FF"><u>mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net</a></u></font>] <br>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:10 PM <br>
> > > > > To: Brandon Zehm <br>
> > > > > Subject: Re: RE: Kivio connector tool problems
<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Hi Brandon, <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > I had gotten a few reports like this before, but
most had been fixed <br>
> > > after <br>
> > > > > the i18n issue patch. <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Can you do this: <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > in plugins/kivioconnectortool/tool_connector.cpp
around line 150, <br>
> >you <br>
> > > > > should <br>
> > > > > see this: <br>
> > > > > if(!ss) <br>
> > > > > return false; <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Please change it to: <br>
> > > > > if(!ss) { <br>
> > > > > kdDebug() << "StraightConnector not
found\n"; <br>
> > > > > return false; <br>
> > > > > } <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > And then recompile. <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > I'm willing to bet you will see "kivio:
StraightConnector not found" <br>
> >in <br>
> > > > > the <br>
> > > > > output. <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > If this is the case, can you go to
$KDEDIR/share/apps/kivio and do: <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > find -name "*Straight*" -print <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > and tell me what that prints? <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > -dave <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > -- Original Message -- <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > BTW I am sending this message directly to you,
since it seemed more <br>
> > > > > appropriate for this message. <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > To answer your question, yes, when I push the
connector tool icon <br>
> >the <br>
> > > > > mouse <br>
> > > > > cursor changes to a line with a plus on it. When
watching form the <br>
> > > > > console <br>
> > > > > I see the message: "kivio: ConnectorTool
activate". Everything <br>
> >looks <br>
> > > like <br>
> > > > > its going to work, but no matter what I try when
you try to connect <br>
> >two <br>
> > > > > objects it just won't create any lines
whatsoever. <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > BTW my friend Paul is having the exact same
problem on his system <br>
> >too. <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > I am definatly available to do testing with you.
If you want me to <br>
> >try <br>
> > > > > compiling a copy with some debugging turned on,
or whatever, I will <br>
> >be <br>
> > > > > more <br>
> > > > > than glad to help. I'm not an expert coder, but
I know some C and I <br>
> > > know <br>
> > > > > bash/perl/php very well. <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > Brandon Zehm <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > -----Original Message----- <br>
> > > > > From: Dave Marotti
[<a href="mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net" eudora="autourl"><font \
color="#0000FF"><u>mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net</a></u></font>] <br>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:55 PM <br>
> > > > > To: koffice@master.kde.org <br>
> > > > > Subject: RE: Kivio connector tool problems
<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > That's even more odd. I can't think of anything
that would cause <br>
> >that <br>
> > > > > other <br>
> > > > > than the plugin not loading. Does the cursor
change to a line with <br>
> >a <br>
> > > > > plus? <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > The only way I can see to debug this would be to
insert some <br>
> >debugging <br>
> > > > > statements into the activate and mouseDown code.
<br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > I'll get back in contact with you later tonight,
I'm at work right <br>
> >now. <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > -dave <br>
> > > > > <br>
> > > > > > ------------ Original Message -----------
<br>
> > > > > > From: Brandon Zehm
<BZehm@criadvantage.com> <br>
> > > > > > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:57:05 -0600
<br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > No actually. I am using the standard
english version (no i18n <br>
> >stuff). <br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > -----Original Message----- <br>
> > > > > > From: lndshark@speakeasy.net
[<a href="mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net" eudora="autourl"><font \
color="#0000FF"><u>mailto:lndshark@speakeasy.net</a></u></font>] <br>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 9:07 PM <br>
> > > > > > To: koffice@max.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de
<br>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Kivio connector tool problems
<br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > Hey Brandon, <br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > Are you by chance using a non-english
version of Kivio? <br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > -dave <br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > -- Original Message -- <br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > Hi, <br>
> > > > > > I have been trying to get Kivio working now
for a few weeks with <br>
> >no <br>
> > > > > luck. <br>
> > > > > > The basic synopsis is that the connector
tool in Kivio is not <br>
> >working <br>
> > > at <br>
> > > > > > all. <br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > I usually download koffice from cvs and
compile it myself. <br>
> >Everything <br>
> > > > > > compiles fine with no errors, installs
fine, and runs fine -- <br>
> >except <br>
> > > > > > Kivio's <br>
> > > > > > connector tool. I have tried this on
multiple systems and every <br>
> >one <br>
> > > has <br>
> > > > > > the <br>
> > > > > > same result. <br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > Here is some basic points: <br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > - My system is Slackware >=7.1, XFree86
4.02, QT 2.30 (compiled <br>
> >myself <br>
> > > > > > with <br>
> > > > > > xft), KDE 2.11 (also compiled myself), Perl
5.6, Python (1.5 and <br>
> >2.1), <br>
> > > > > > Koffice >= beta1, anything I'm missing?
<br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > - I have tried several versions of koffice,
usually downloaded <br>
> >from <br>
> > > cvs. <br>
> > > > > > The latest one I tried was just a few days
ago, I think on 4-20. <br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > - All of KOffice compiles fine. No fatal
warnings or errors that <br>
> >I <br>
> > > > > seen. <br>
> > > > > > Everything installs fine. Kivio starts
right up just fine (nice <br>
> >v1.0 <br>
> > > > > > graphic too). <br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > - Once in Kivio when I select the
'Connector Tool' the only <br>
> >message <br>
> >I <br>
> > > > > get <br>
> > > > > > (when watching from the console) is: <br>
> > > > > > > kivio: ConnectorTool activate <br>
> > > > > > > QPixmap::convertToImage: Connot
convert a null pixmap <br>
> > > > > > > QPixmap::convertFromImage: Connot
convert a null image <br>
> > > > > > > QPixmap::convertFromImage: Connot
convert a null image <br>
> > > > > > The null image message doesn't seem to be a
problem. It shows <br>
> >that <br>
> > > > > > several <br>
> > > > > > times while the program is starting up.
<br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > - Some of the older versions of Kivio
worked fine (so yes, I know <br>
> >what <br>
> > > > > the <br>
> > > > > > connector tool is and that I have to use it
to connect objects :) <br>
> >- <br>
> > > just <br>
> > > > > > the <br>
> > > > > > last few releases seem to be broken. <br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > I have tried installing Koffice on several
systems, some <br>
> >clean/new, <br>
> > > some <br>
> > > > > > old. A friend of mine tried it on his
system and had the exact <br>
> >same <br>
> > > > > > results <br>
> > > > > > too. <br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > Any thoughts? What am I doing right/wrong?
<br>
> > > > > > I would love to start using Kivio if I
could just connect objects! <br>
> > > > > > <br>
> > > > > > Brandon Zehm <br>
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