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List:       kwin
Subject:    Re: new default keyboard shortcut proposal
From:       Andrew Dorrell <andrew.dorrell () gmail ! com>
Date:       2009-02-14 12:41:52
Message-ID: 4996BC10.6010300 () gmail ! com
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Hi Lucas,

Its nice to know your dream convention is similar...  People are used to 
odd and inconsistent shortcuts, yes, but I don't think that makes it 
beyond help.  NB, in my text I was equating the "Meta" key with what is 
more widely called the "windows" key on PCs.  I think it makes sense to 
keep that key reserved for WM/DE use at least on PC hardware.

Andreas mentioned that developers and usability people have no real 
interest in harmonising keyboard navigtion / shortcuts which is a little 
surprising for me.  Is it because they are more interested in mouse 
gestures and such like?  Is there a previous thread / forum discussion / 
wiki page / whatever?  Perhaps shortcuts are just old-school?

Thanks,

Lucas Murray wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Dorrell
> <andrew.dorrell@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> FWIW http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_keyboard_shortcuts
>> demonstrated quite a mix of conventions IMHO.  It would be nice to have
>> a DE with a single consistent convention.
>>     
>
> My dream convention would be to have all WM and workspace-related
> global shortcuts to always use Alt+[Shift+]<Anything>. That allows
> applications to be able to use localized Ctrl+[Shift+]<Anything> and
> Meta+[Shift+]<Anything> and global Ctrl+Meta+[Shift+]<Anything>
> without fear of conflict.
>
> The problem is that we can't actually do this with any popular DE such
> as KDE as so many people are used to the extremely odd and
> inconsistent shortcuts already in use. =(
>   

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