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Subject: Re: [kde-promo] Article about Baloo
From: Martín_González <mgonzlezgmz () gmail ! com>
Date: 2014-01-20 21:08:56
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Hi!
First, I present myself: I'm a journalist student here in Barcelona, and
I've collaborated several times with Alex and Aleix doing coverages about
Blue Systems and KDE events in Spain (Akademy-es). Aleix told me about
Baloo, and tomorrow I'll be in the office interviewing Vishesh.
Maybe that piece can fit in the planned article. Please tell me what you
think.
Following the topic, as a normal user I support the idea of Baloo as a
different product than Nepomuk. Vishesh told me about the great
improvements in speed and cpu usage, and Nepomuk has a not-so-good
reputation, so it makes sense to mark Baloo as something different.
Regards,
Martín González
2014/1/20 Ŕlex Fiestas <afiestas@kde.org>
> We were discussing this in the office and Vishesh is forcing me to send my
> thoughts to the list... so here I come.
>
> By an undetermined but big amount of users Nepomuk is considered a failure
> and
> it hasn't been until 4.10 (Vishesh words, not mine) that Nepomuk has been
> usable, meaning that it's been 1 year since some of our users are enjoying
> it
> (as long as they don't use it together with akonadi) in contrast to the 4.5
> years it has been unusable.
>
> If we announce that Baloo is a continuation of Nepomuk all the users that
> have
> not tried Nepomuk in the last year will apply the prejudices they acquired
> during the first years of Nepomuk, resulting in them potentially not trying
> Baloo.
>
> Also, I personally think that publicly admitting failure while it might be
> negative it also bring us the opportunity of publicly amending our mistake
> (putting Nepomuk too early) and our way of amending the mistake is Baloo.
>
> So, put it short I believe announcing Baloo as a "New start" has more short
> and long term benefits.
>
> Also, once the first announcement is done we should not have to mention
> Baloo
> anymore since the idea is that Baloo will blend into the system in such a
> way
> that users won't be able to know that they are even using it, which makes
> me
> wonder if we need to announce Baloo at all. Desktop Search is a term I
> don't
> like either since Baloo is not about searching.
>
> Cheers !
>
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<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hi!<br><br></div>First, I present myself: I'm a \
journalist student here in Barcelona, and I've collaborated several times with \
Alex and Aleix doing coverages about Blue Systems and KDE events in Spain \
(Akademy-es). Aleix told me about Baloo, and tomorrow I'll be in the office \
interviewing Vishesh.<br>
Maybe that piece can fit in the planned article. Please tell me what you \
think.<br><br></div><div>Following the topic, as a normal user I support the idea of \
Baloo as a different product than Nepomuk. Vishesh told me about the great \
improvements in speed and cpu usage, and Nepomuk has a not-so-good reputation, so it \
makes sense to mark Baloo as something different.<br>
<br></div><div>Regards,<br><br></div><div>Martín González<br></div></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014/1/20 Ŕlex Fiestas <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:afiestas@kde.org" \
target="_blank">afiestas@kde.org</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">We were discussing this in the office and Vishesh is forcing \
me to send my<br> thoughts to the list... so here I come.<br>
<br>
By an undetermined but big amount of users Nepomuk is considered a failure and<br>
it hasn't been until 4.10 (Vishesh words, not mine) that Nepomuk has been<br>
usable, meaning that it's been 1 year since some of our users are enjoying it<br>
(as long as they don't use it together with akonadi) in contrast to the 4.5<br>
years it has been unusable.<br>
<br>
If we announce that Baloo is a continuation of Nepomuk all the users that have<br>
not tried Nepomuk in the last year will apply the prejudices they acquired<br>
during the first years of Nepomuk, resulting in them potentially not trying<br>
Baloo.<br>
<br>
Also, I personally think that publicly admitting failure while it might be<br>
negative it also bring us the opportunity of publicly amending our mistake<br>
(putting Nepomuk too early) and our way of amending the mistake is Baloo.<br>
<br>
So, put it short I believe announcing Baloo as a "New start" has more \
short<br> and long term benefits.<br>
<br>
Also, once the first announcement is done we should not have to mention Baloo<br>
anymore since the idea is that Baloo will blend into the system in such a way<br>
that users won't be able to know that they are even using it, which makes me<br>
wonder if we need to announce Baloo at all. Desktop Search is a term I don't<br>
like either since Baloo is not about searching.<br>
<br>
Cheers !<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div \
dir="ltr"><b>Martín González</b><br>Visita mi blog: <a href="http://mgonzalez.org/" \
target="_blank">http://mgonzalez.org/</a><br></div> </div>
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