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Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] Article about Baloo
From:       Jos Poortvliet <jos () opensuse ! org>
Date:       2014-01-20 21:16:36
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 8:48 PM, Àlex Fiestas <afiestas@kde.org> wrote:
> We were discussing this in the office and Vishesh is forcing me to send my
> thoughts to the list... so here I come.
> 
> By an undetermined but big amount of users Nepomuk is considered a failure and
> it hasn't been until 4.10 (Vishesh words, not mine) that Nepomuk has been
> usable, meaning that it's been 1 year since some of our users are enjoying it
> (as long as they don't use it together with akonadi) in contrast to the 4.5
> years it has been unusable.
> 
> If we announce that Baloo is a continuation of Nepomuk all the users that have
> not tried Nepomuk in the last year will apply the prejudices they acquired
> during the first years of Nepomuk, resulting in them potentially not trying
> Baloo.
> 
> Also, I personally think that publicly admitting failure while it might be
> negative it also bring us the opportunity of publicly amending our mistake
> (putting Nepomuk too early) and our way of amending the mistake is Baloo.
> 
> So, put it short I believe announcing Baloo as a "New start" has more short
> and long term benefits.
> 
> Also, once the first announcement is done we should not have to mention Baloo
> anymore since the idea is that Baloo will blend into the system in such a way
> that users won't be able to know that they are even using it, which makes me
> wonder if we need to announce Baloo at all. Desktop Search is a term I don't
> like either since Baloo is not about searching.

I don't think we disagree on this, at all. In the article I tried to
make the point that Baloo is an effort to fix the shortcomings of
Nepomuk and then some. It is perhaps not a full-blown apology but it
makes crystal clear that we do realize that Nepomuk has serious issues
and Baloo is there to do something about it.

People need to see a balance: We know what's wrong with Nepomuk; Baloo
is not entirely new that we lost all build up stability and experience
and start over with a new-fangled, unstable mess, but it is new enough
to get rid of the serious problems that plagued its predecessor.

I hope that you see this message in the article. If it is not clear
enough, please tell me and try to help me fix it ;-)

Hugs,
Jos



> Cheers !

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