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List:       kde-bugs-dist
Subject:    [Bug 160162] New window/tab should ask for profile if there are more
From:       Robert Knight <robertknight () gmail ! com>
Date:       2008-04-10 9:05:22
Message-ID: 20080410090522.9778.qmail () ktown ! kde ! org
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------- Additional Comments From robertknight gmail com  2008-04-10 11:05 -------
> 3. The 'change default' feature changes some of the above actions so
> maybe the ability to change default could be removed from the GUI. 

As I said before, I have a need for this feature and other people who often use a \
different shell or environment will likely also have this need.  

> I think the metaphors are borrowed from konqueror,

Bookmarks consist only of a location, which may be a local folder or an SSH login and \
basic metadata such as a name and comments.  This is consistent throughout KDE and \
the same editor is provided to edit bookmarks, import and export bookmarks in all \
applications.  The same icons and menu items are used for them everywhere.  As far as \
I can see, the function is the same in Konqueror and Konsole.  In Konqueror a \
bookmark takes you to a directory or web page.  In Konsole it takes you to a \
directory or computer.  Bookmarks don't manage any other settings.  

I agree that there are alternatives for bookmarks for quickly changing to a directory \
or connecting to a computer.  This was a feature left over from KDE 3 which doesn't \
add a lot of complexity to the code or noise to the UI so I left it in.  Ultimately I \
view the "Bookmarks" feature as a hack around the poor directory navigation features \
which bash provides.  It would be better to fix the problem at the shell level.

Profiles are a concept specific to Konsole.  They are a complete set of settings \
which define a working environment.  This includes the shell to run, environment, \
initial directory, color scheme, terminal settings and key bindings for input.  

> The aim of KDE4 (again correct me if I am wrong) is to simplify
> applications whilst still retaining power. 

That is a goal of mine and I think Konsole 2.0 achieves this for the most part.  KDE \
4 itself as a big umbrella project lacks a well-defined global vision unfortunately.

> I feel that because konsole is seen as a power app, it is somehow
> exempt from this, but even power users want simple to use but powerful apps.

They also want flexibility.  Walking around the workstations and laptops at KDE's \
conferences I can see a fair variety in the way people have their terminals set up, \
the applications they use with them and so on.  I am sure that I would get unhappy \
users if I stripped them of basic choices.  

> cause complications for both the user and the developer
> (because of extra possible bugs or misunderstandings). 

In this case, the presence of a changeable default adds very little complexity to the \
code.  You can verify that for yourself if you wish.

As for user confusion, there are a number of usability bugs in Konsole 2.0 which have \
been reported, this has not been one of them.  The most common problem naturally is \
the change from KDE 3 to 4 where users expect things to work the same way as they did \
in the past.  That is to be expected.


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