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List:       kde-bugs-dist
Subject:    [Bug 160162] New window/tab should ask for profile if there are more
From:       Mike <mike () blueroot ! co ! uk>
Date:       2008-04-01 13:11:31
Message-ID: 20080401131131.12724.qmail () ktown ! kde ! org
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------- Additional Comments From mike blueroot co uk  2008-04-01 15:11 -------
OK - To try to simplify things, here are my main problems (from a \
usability/consistency POV), and possible solutions.

1. 'Shell' is the same as new tab (unless you have changed the default).  Solution - \
Remove the default from the extra list, this means that only new window and new tab \
will show on a new install. 2. When you open the edit profiles dialog the shortcut \
for 'Shell' is not set.  Does this mean I can have 2 shortcuts for the same thing \
(with one being variable depending on my default profile)?  The solution is to set \
the Shortcut next to the 'Shell' as Ctrl+Shift+n, the problem is when you change the \
default this will change too and possibly overwrite the new profile's shortcut.  This \
problem leads me to... 3. The 'change default' feature changes some of the above \
actions so maybe the ability to change default could be removed from the GUI.  You \
will still have default as 'Shell' but the user will not normally be able to change \
it.  You will then be able to populate the edit profiles shortcut and it will not be \
possible to have 2 shortcuts for the same thing.  I do not think sub menus are nice, \
it is good the way it is. 4. Could we have a look at bookmarks and profiles?  I think \
the metaphors are borrowed from konqueror, but they are different in their action \
(correct me if I am wrong).  In konqueror the profile completely changes the app and \
the way it behaves, bookmarks take you to a specific url.  In konsole, profiles give \
you a shell with a certain background color and maybe executes a different shell or \
sets some variables, bookmarks are just a way of cd'ing to a directory.  To me a \
profile should actually be a bookmark, there is little use in having a quick cd \
command, power users can create symlinks if they are hard-of-typing.  Another \
anology, on my browser I have a bookmark on my sites administration, in konsole I \
have a very similar thing, but for some reason in that app it is called a profile \
(ie. log into same server via ssh). 5. This is getting slightly off-topic, but the \
profiles reorder themselves (in the file menu) every time you change something.

The aim of KDE4 (again correct me if I am wrong) is to simplify applications whilst \
still retaining power.  I feel that because konsole is seen as a power app, it is \
somehow exempt from this, but even power users want simple to use but powerful apps.  \
I feel that some options and features are extraneous and cause complications for both \
the user and the developer (because of extra possible bugs or misunderstandings).


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