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List:       kde-bugs-dist
Subject:    [Bug 160162] New window/tab should ask for profile if there are more
From:       Mike <mike () blueroot ! co ! uk>
Date:       2008-04-10 14:40:13
Message-ID: 20080410144013.11598.qmail () ktown ! kde ! org
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------- Additional Comments From mike blueroot co uk  2008-04-10 16:40 -------
> Bookmarks consist only of a location, which may be a local folder or an SSH login \
> and basic metadata such as a name and comments.

I did not know that a bookmark allowed you to bookmark a SSH login, there is no way \
to know unless you RTFM.  Will it also save the directory on the remote server?, or \
any environmental variables that I have set?  Will it also save a chroot on this \
machine or a local one?

These might sound like unreasonable requests but some of them are possible by using \
profiles.

If profiles were beefed up slightly in some areas, trimmed down in others and then \
renamed bookmarks then it would reduce a lot of complexity (from a user point of \
view), whilst still keeping all of the power.

I suppose your main objection to this would be this

> In Konqueror a bookmark takes you to a directory or web page.  In Konsole it takes \
> you to a directory or computer.  Bookmarks don't manage any other settings.

In which case you are restricting the use of bookmarks just because of a browser, \
other apps could require extra data in a bookmark, amarok for example could bookmark \
a song at a specific point, I am sure other apps could add their own data to a \
bookmark which is not needed for konqueror (ie current tool in Krita, visible \
toolbars etc).

You may not think it adds complexity but it makes the user think about what they are \
doing and how konsole works in the background.  Consider this case..

I have 2 bookmarks, on shh://server and one /mydir on my local machine.  I click the \
bookmark for /mydir, do something, then I click the bookmark for the server and then \
remember I forgot to do something in /mydir so I click its bookmark.  /mydir does not \
exist on the remote machine and therefore just produces an error.  Then I have to \
stop and think and press Ctrl+D and then select the bookmark.

> I agree that there are alternatives for bookmarks for quickly changing to a \
> directory or connecting to a computer.  This was a feature left over from KDE 3 \
> which doesn't add a lot of complexity to the code or noise to the UI so I left it \
> in.  Ultimately I view the "Bookmarks" feature as a hack around the poor directory \
> navigation features which bash provides.  It would be better to fix the problem at \
> the shell level.

I suspect the reason that it does not add a lot of complexity is because it is almost \
useless (and because there are better solutions to the problem).

If you are concerned about navigating directories then it would be really nice to \
have a dolphin-like navigation bar which could be used to change directories.  Not \
sure how this would work though.


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