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List:       suse-kde
Subject:    Re: [opensuse-kde] https://github.com/openSUSE/libzypp/pull/14
From:       Martin Schlander <martin.schlander () gmail ! com>
Date:       2012-10-27 9:58:57
Message-ID: 2157015.oby5ANe5e8 () klaptop ! site
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Fredag den 26. oktober 2012 18:37:36 skrev Cristian Morales Vega:
> **OPENSUSE (KDE Team)** already decided to drop the zypp backend and
> use PackageKit:
> http://gitorious.org/opensuse/kupdateapplet/commit/fd3e44863e3518cc3df8e8500
> 07d07602cb70161 And for 11.4 **OPENSUSE (KDE Team)** decide to drop it
> completely and leave only kpackagekit.

Tgoettlicher is not the KDE team. Kupdateapplet was maintained by YaST/zypp 
guys, YaST/zypp guys decided for mysterious reasons to prefer the PK backend 
over the zypp-backend, and subsquently YaST/zypp guys decided to drop 
kupdateapplet. 

But this has little relevance for the handling of local RPM installation. 
Noone is saying Apper shouldn't be included as an updater applet.

> > But the presence of the KCM does of course add confusion for the user
> > about
> > which package management tool is the official, main, recommended,
> > canonical one for openSUSE, which is one of a long list of reasons why
> > YaST should be used for installation of local RPMs by default and not
> > Apper.
> 
> I don't really follow the argument. Since everything but YaST and zypp
> uses PackageKit changing the program that handles the local RPMs
> **ADDs** to the confusion.

YaST and zypper are the main openSUSE package management tools.

sw_single has a very prominent position in the Kickoff computer tab - much more 
prominent than the presence of Apper in systemsettings. openSUSE documentation 
refers to YaST for managing software. Etc. etc.

Hence clearly YaST should also be used for local RPM installation, sending a 
clear signal to the user that YaST is _the_ openSUSE package management GUI 
(ignoring for a minute the fact that YaST is so much more reliable than 
PackageKit).

> Unless you remove the "Software Management"
> from the "System Settins" (or make it open YaST). 

There is a long standing open bug report to change the name of that KCM, so it 
doesn't confuse people and clash with the naming of sw_single in YaST.

> go back to kupdateapplet!! 

It would be awesome if KUpdateApplet and the zypp backend were maintained of 
course, but this won't happen. And besides it's completely irrelevant for the 
topic at hand, which is the handling of local RPM installation.
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