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List:       suse-kde
Subject:    Re: [opensuse-kde] https://github.com/openSUSE/libzypp/pull/14
From:       Cristian Morales Vega <reddwarf () opensuse ! org>
Date:       2012-10-27 9:30:05
Message-ID: CAOWQn3RgQrC_JGWonLP_wkGEAJwTD=G2bZbd+a5H+U-Z4j4d4A () mail ! gmail ! com
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On 26 October 2012 19:41, Sven Burmeister <sven.burmeister@gmx.net> wrote:
> Am Freitag, 26. Oktober 2012, 18:56:17 schrieb Cristian Morales Vega:
>> >> Naturally full-featured Apper is available in the installation, including
>> >> the upstream Systemsettings KCM. But that doesn't change the fact that
>> >> the only reason Apper is included in the default install, is because
>> >> opensuseupdater was dropped, and a new updater applet was needed.
>> >
>> > You make it look like if there was something that actually *forced* us
>> > to drop kupdateapplet.
>>
>> I have to go and I didn't test it. But FWIW, you have the old
>> kupdateapplet with ZYpp support (meaning without packagekit) in
>> home:RedDwarf build for openSUSE 12.2. Not exactly difficult...
>
> I remember the applet giving all kinds of issues, staying red if there were no
> security updates, not turning red if there were etc. It seemed unmaintained
> and buggy to me.
>
> And what people forget is that the purpose of packagekit is to allow users to
> install updates without entering the root password.

Oh surprise, people only complains when there is a problem for them.
Now people complains because about PackageKit because openSUSE uses it
and it's problematic for them. Let's start using kupdateapplet and
magically nobody will complain about PackageKit since... well, nobody
will be using it. But we will start to enjoy complains about
kupdateapplet. Magically bnc#736100 will start to be kupdateapplet and
not Apper's fault (hint: it's ZYpp fault).

I want a working PackageKit. Other than that I don't care if there is
a broken PackageKit or no PackageKit at all. But please, be
consistent.
If PackageKit is wanted... do nothing. But if PackageKit isn't wanted
remove it from everywhere:

- "application/x-rpm" and "application/x-redhat-package-manager"
default MIME handler
- update applet
- System Settings->Software Management
- any other place where it's used

The three changes require the incredible workload of... a single
person working for 1 hour. So please, no excuses. If it's not done it
will be because nobody able to create a patch from a bit of copy&paste
really thinks PackageKit is such a big problem. And I know the
openSUSE KDE Team is able of a lot more.
This Wednesday there is an openSUSE KDE Team meeting. It would be nice
if on Thursday we would get a clear answer from the openSUSE KDE Team
as a whole.
I will keep the kupdateapplet package in my home repo until the first
of November. Then it will be deleted.
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