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List:       suse-kde
Subject:    Re: [suse-kde] KDE 3.1 on 8.1, yet again
From:       Kristian Koehntopp <kris () koehntopp ! de>
Date:       2003-02-04 22:58:23
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Am Di 4.Februar 2003 16:41 schrieb KMcLauchlan@chrysalis-its.com:
> By the way, anybody, is the ftp.kde.org site faster than
> the ftp.gwdg.de site?

Both are located within the WIN (Wissenschaftsnetz, German scientific 
network). That is, if you are coming in via a transatlantic line they should 
perform comparably.

p15104972:~ # traceroute ftp.kde.org
...
 5  ir-frankfurt2.g-win.dfn.de (80.81.192.222)  2.918 ms   3.007 ms   2.960 ms
 6  cr-frankfurt1.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.80.37)  3.365 ms   3.682 ms   3.794 ms

 7  cr-koeln1.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.18.86)  7.201 ms   7.265 ms   7.375 ms
 8  ar-koeln2.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.84.3)  7.347 ms   7.327 ms   7.473 ms
 9  kr-bonn.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (131.220.254.2)  8.844 ms   9.102 ms   9.222 ms
10  sr1-rz-vlan3.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (131.220.1.249)  9.954 ms   10.062 ms   
10.034 ms
11  subraum.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (131.220.60.97)  9.980 ms   9.968 ms   9.922 ms

p15104972:~ # traceroute ftp.gwdg.de
...
 5  ir-frankfurt2.g-win.dfn.de (80.81.192.222)  3.058 ms   3.024 ms   2.998 ms
 6  cr-frankfurt1.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.80.37)  12.930 ms   13.186 ms   13.066 
ms

 7  cr-hannover1.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.18.182)  8.192 ms   8.162 ms   8.140 ms
 8  ar-goettingen1.g-win.dfn.de (188.1.88.74)  10.488 ms   10.462 ms   10.440 
ms
 9  c12012-int.gwdg.de (134.76.249.201)  10.826 ms   10.942 ms   10.912 ms
10  134.76.249.204  11.195 ms   11.311 ms   11.307 ms
11  ftp.gwdg.de (134.76.11.100)  11.238 ms   11.223 ms   11.202 ms

As you can see, both traceroutes pass into the Win at hop 5 from my POV of the 
net. Both routes turn to different targets from hop 7 on down within the WIN.

If you observe different performance, it will be load-related and depends more 
or less on the time of day and the load level of the local WIN within the 
Koeln/Bonn region compared to the Hannover/Goettingen region.

> What is so special about KDE3.1 that it is more resistant
> to installing than any of 1000 other packages that
> successfully went in?

The procedure I described worked flawlessly first time I tried.

One of the reasons I do not use apt or apt4rpm is that my Debian experience 
with apt was so abysmal. Half of the time Debian apt left me with a dialogue 
with rougly the meaning of "installation of package ... failed. You have the 
choice of a) never installing a package again or b) deleting all packages 
that have ever heard of the new package, including your X server and all 
software development packages you can think of." only worded differently.

Using rpm and a shell script I can at least preview what will happen to my 
system and control which dependencies I chose to ignore or which ones I have 
to work around.

Kristian

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