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List:       redhat-list
Subject:    Re: KDE Performance
From:       Joseph A Nagy Jr <joseph_a_nagy_jr () charter ! net>
Date:       2003-05-15 15:11:43
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Fred Whipple wrote:
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>>I'm sure Qt has it's high points, but if it's making KDE slower, then 
>>the KDE team needs to find something else instead of locking into one 
>>language.
> 
> 
> I don't believe it's QT making KDE pokey.  Rather, I believe it's the object
> layers within the KDE libraries that make KDE pokey.  My experience with QT
> applications -- those that use the QT library set only, and _not_ the KDE
> libraries -- is that they're very fast.
> 
> QT's usage of the MOC pre-processor helps even more, as it dumps lots of
> static code into your application rather than adding an object layer on top
> of it.

Oh? I still like the GTK+ interface. Being able to assign hotkeys on the 
fly rocks.

> 
> 
>>I thought after all choosing Linux in the first 
>>place was for 
>>a secure, stable (and occasionaly zippy) OS.
> 
> 
> Having used Linux in production for about five years now, I would say that
> Linux is a very (but not supremely) stable OS -- but I will concede that its
> desktop interfaces don't meet the level of Windows or Mac OS if you score
> each of them on both stability and usability at the same time.  That is, X +
> twm + xterm is incredibly stable/fast, but isn't quite as usable (without
> starting a flamewar) as, say, KDE.  KDE is more usable, but not as
> stable/fast as X + twm + xterm.  I'd argue that Windows, Mac OS, BeOS (why,
> WHY??) are usable _and_ fast, though neither are my first choice for
> operating system level stability.  Who uses microkernels anymore, anyway?
> ;-)  Ah, it's late...

I dunno. I find KDE 2.2.2 on my RH7.2 box (PII w/MMX 300MHz w/ 128MB of 
RAM).

> 
> 
>>BTW, any way I can score a copy of the countdown timer (and 
>>possibly (if 
>>I like it) stick it on one of my websites for download (with 
>>credit to 
>>you of course))?
> 
> 
> I wish :-/  Despite being the coolest desktop utility every conceived by
> man, it was written for QT 1.x.  When 1.y came out, it worked very strangly,
> and I didn't update it.  When QT 2.x came about, it broke entirely.  It is
> now lost in the bitbucket in the sky.

Oh? That sucks.

> 
> I've been toying with the idea of re-writing it in Java (talk about slow
> UI).  But you know how these projects go.

Java is evil and crashes my browser (I have to disable Java to surf the 
web).

> 
> 	-Fred
> 
> 



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