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Subject:    Re: [Quanta] Questions and suggestions from a novice user about
From:       weseman () interstroom ! nl
Date:       2006-07-11 9:10:24
Message-ID: 48126.80.85.129.15.1152609024.squirrel () webmail ! interstroom ! nl
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Hi Eric,

First of all, thanks for taking the time to respond to my last mail. I see
you've really taken the time to answer me in the best possible manner. I
appreciate that!

> First of all... we don't care what some HTML only Windows tool did, only
> what you want to do. Look in the template help and at the template folders.
Hmm, have I hit a sensitive spot here? (giggle) ;-) I've also found an
example in the Linux realms: KDevelop. It contains a feature called 'code
snippets', in which it is possible to insert a variable $VAR$ in the
template. Once you insert that snippet you get a dialog box per variable
found in the snippet. It's a very powerful feature!
I've also found out that KTextEditor contains an API interface called
templateInterface, that allows someone to insert variables in templates.
See
http://www.kate-editor.org/article/insertion_templates
Isn't Quanta built on Kate, which is built on KTextEditor? If that interface
would have been exposed to DCOP I would have built it myself. Unfortunately
it isn't...

> > /Where do the script actions come from?
> This is odd. I don't see a heading for this in the docs. Scripts are like
> templates inasmuch as they reside in project directories, $KDEHOME and
> $KDEDIR. So typically ~./kde/share/apps/quanta is where your user info is.
Thanks for the hint. I found out that Quanta shows all actions of the
'script' type. So to add new scripts to this combobox, one would go to
Settings->Configure Actions and add a new Action of the type 'script'.

> There is also a script in the Global Scripts section called TemplateMagic
> that does this. Unfortunately there hasn't been a lot of interest in
> working with improvements, but it was done with the old Kommander and could
> easily be redone now. Anyway it does this and can also be extended to use
> lists, files and other extended widgets. One of the abilities of Quanta
> with templates is to run a script or filter on insert.
I've tried to use this script, but I don't seem to be able to.

These were the issues I encountered:
- filtering actions can only be applied to 'Local templates' and 'Project
templates', but NOT for 'Global templates' for some reason. The
combobox 'filtering actions' is grayed out for global templates.
- TemplateMagic can't be selected in the filtering actions combobox. I had
to manually add TemplateMagic to that list by adding an action as
described
above ('where do the script actions come from')
- Once I had a local template created and reloaded quanta as it didn't
detect the new template being there, I could select TemplateMagic as the
filtering action
- Now when I insert a template with TemplateMagic as the filtering action
Quanta complains that TemplateMagic isn't executable. So I set chmod ugo+x
for /usr/share/apps/quanta/scripts/TemplateMagic.pl
- Now Quanta doesn't want to execute this. It says: "Wrong extension. This
file does not have a .kmdr extension. As a security precaution Kommander
will only run Kommander scripts with a clear identity"

I'm probably missing an easy way to enable TemplateMagic for my templates.
Would you be so kind to explain how to do this?

> > /Global event triggers/
> > - these events would work on files opened outside of a project also
> You mean in Quanta?
Yes

> I see... I'll ponder on this. It's an interesting idea, but it also could
> cause accidental disasters on a massive scale. We went with projects
> because it was the only way to have a clear definition of enough factors.
Interestingly, I noticed (after writing my last e-mail) that it already
works like that. If you've opened a project in Quanta and have set an
event
on 'open document' for your project, this event will also trigger when you
open a local document, thus making this event 'global'. Of course this is
highly unexpected behavior and could cause accidental disaster on a massive
scale ;-) It would probably be better if this is separated a bit more.
I've discovered that this is also the case when I create a new (local) file
using 'save file as' when I have a project opened. Quanta will ask me if I
want to add that file to the project, which is kind of strange as the file
is stored in a directory completely outside of the project directory.

> > /Bug when logging project events/
> > Secondly, I can't it get it to work ;-) I'm trying to log which files
> Is this a relative or absolute address? It's looking for an absolute
> address and if it doesn't find it you should have an error logged, but it
> might not have.
It's an absolute adress on my local harddisk. I've run Quanta from the
console, hoping to see an error, but I don't see one. I've also checked my
logs under /var/log, but see nothing special. I think it's broken. I wonder
if anyone has got this working. I haven't, both on a clean install and
within a vmware virtual machine with a clean install.

> Create an action. You can also submit scripts to our KStuff repository.
When you say KStuff repository, do you mean http://www.kde-apps.org ?

Yuri

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