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List:       quanta
Subject:    Re: [Quanta] Fw: Bug with V3.4
From:       Eric Laffoon <sequitur () kde ! org>
Date:       2005-08-22 18:53:13
Message-ID: 200508221153.14114.sequitur () kde ! org
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On Monday 22 August 2005 6:35 am, Jon Roland wrote:
> This was posted to the list but did not appear.

I'm not seeing it held in admin. Possibly a wrong address?
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Bug with V3.4
> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 15:01:38 +0000
> From: Jon Roland <jon.roland@the-spa.com>
> Reply-To: jon.roland@the-spa.com
> Organization: Starflight Corporation
> To: Quanta users list <quanta@mail.kde.org>
>
> After upgrading ton V3.4 I am encountering a strange problem, which may be
> a problem with Kate, because Kate tries to make the same changes. If so,
> then the kdewebdev team needs to prevail on the kate team to fix things
> that screw up Quanta+.

We don't generally do that. Standard procedure is to direct users to the 
destination to file the bug. We have about the same influence as you.
>
> I use Finereader OCR http://www.abbyy.com to generate HTML files, which I
> then need to further edit, preferably using only Quanta+. But lately, as
> soon as I save a changed file, its extended ascii characters, which
> Finereader saves as characters rather than as HTML &#nnn; tags, get
> transformed into about 3 garbage characters, plus it deletes the first
> normal character following the replaced character. I have been forced to
> first edit the file using a Windows editor to replace the extended ascii
> characters with the corresponding HTML tags.

This is likely a matter of setting a compliant file type. 
>
> I  case it works, I am attaching an example of an HTML file before it gets
> mischanged in the way I describe, in case others can reproduce the problem
> and suggest a fix.

I don't have time to look through that large a file to see if I see a problem. 
It's only going to show up if I'm reading the wrong file type. Ideally your 
software generating this should declare it in the document head. If it is and 
Quanta doesn't read and set that (which I don't know if it does) that might 
be something for us to look at.

I note this at the top of the document...
<META HTTP-EQUIV="CONTENT-TYPE" CONTENT="TEXT/HTML; CHARSET=WINDOWS-1252">
This means you can also have problems with returns and EOF. Using the 
indicated character set for the file should clear things up.
>
> One fix, of course, would be a function that would just replace extended
> ascii characters with their HTML equivalents throughout the file (or the
> reverse).

We have this.
>
> I also have a continuing gripe with the lack of convenience functions that
> I got used to with my Windows HTML editor, HoTMetal Pro, which I will
> submit as further RFE messages.

Too bad it won't handle XML structural validation on the fly for DTDs off the 
web, among other things. I'm about to gripe that we are thousands of dollars 
behind on donations this year for sponsoring developers who I owe money too. 
There is a difference between what you pay for and what is given away 
freely... In this case you can emulate everything from every commercial 
editor you can find with a few lines of any scripting language you prefer, an 
Action and possibly a quick Kommander dialog, not to mention code shortcuts, 
templates and more. In short Quanta can do more than any other editor, but 
with less developers than I can count on one hand there is no way we can 
fully customize for every user and we're not even going to try. Of course if 
every user sent us funding or code that would be different.
>
> -- Jon
>
One thing to make this easier is for us to enable a global repository through 
the KNewStuff menus and servers. We're in the process of setting up the 
upload now, so even if you can't write these scripts we hope others will 
begin making these "convenience features" into a huge smorgasbord of custom 
options.
-- 
Eric Laffoon - Quanta+ Team Leader 
http://quanta.kdewebdev.org
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