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List:       opensuse-factory
Subject:    Re: [opensuse-factory] Update while active graphical desktop session made logout impossible
From:       Sven Burmeister <sven.burmeister () gmx ! net>
Date:       2012-12-20 20:17:21
Message-ID: 2096802.9z56BRiFiG () linux-ly0d
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Am Donnerstag, 20. Dezember 2012, 16:31:12 schrieb Claudio Freire:
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Lars Müller <lmuelle@suse.com> wrote:
> >> > We could even be more elegant and throttle the download speed if other
> >> > processes use the same link.
> >> > 
> >> > b) Apply the updates on shutdown
> >> 
> >> This is a bit impractical if the patch fixes a security problem.
> >> Secondly shutdowns may be rare.
> > 
> > Nobody stops users from changing the default.
> > 
> > And what's more impractical?
> 
> There's also the inconvenience of delaying shutdown considerably.
> 
> Imagine I'm running out of battery life, and the system starts applying
> updates?

Suspend to disk.

But anyway, I like the idea and your argument does not really defeat it.

Simply add a checkbox or something like that to the logout/shutdown dialogue: 
"apply updates when logging out". If it is enabled by default users can 
disable it per usecase.

Question is, if that checkbox is disabled should the updates be installed when 
starting-up or wait until the next logout?

Also, what if people never shut down but simply hibernate. Whatever tool used, 
it must mediate that an update needs the logout. And since linux people are 
picky about their choices, it would have to offer to install them without 
logout as well. Apper can notify about "shutdown/logout needed" AFAIK, not 
sure about other update frontends. Yet currently it only does it after updates 
are applied not before.

Sven
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