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List:       ngw
Subject:    Re: Some questions...
From:       "Dennis Large" <dennis.large () louisville ! edu>
Date:       1999-09-14 16:21:14
Message-ID: s7de3dc3.013 () gwise ! louisville ! edu
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> Please check the tid again, a number of people have quoted this in the 
> past. The number of PO members is not the limit, its the number of 
> concurrent live users, at stated in the tid. We have just sized our new 
> GroupWise system, and will be starting with lots of users next month, for a 
> maximum of 25000 users (we will phase it in over a maximum 3 of years, 
> new students getting GroupWise by default each year). These users will be 
> allocated at about 4500 per PO, based on the network location of their 
> departments/schools. But as the number of seats in these each of these 
> locations, don't exceed 500, the maximum number concurrent sessions 
> would be, if they all use mail together, 500 per PO.

I can agree with this IF you have smaller retention periods, and force either \
archiving or deletion. Otherwise the databases get terribly huge, and maintenance \
gets unwieldy.

> 
> John  
> 
> > > > "Matt Vigus" <mvigus@mailnet.co.za> 14/09/99 14:45:25 >>>
> I agree with Dennis
> 
> Maybe youre PO's are pushing the limits a bit, I was involved with a 
> university po migration and the numbers were big! there is a  good tid on 
> Novels site about GW sizing (cant rememer the tid no...) , but my 
> recomendation was shot down when I posted to the list ( and the university 
> almost c$%p@d themselves when I explained they needed some new 
> servers)!
> 
> I also think the limit is normal for your sent items folder.
> 
> As for the size of the mails that you students are sending, are you using 
> GWIA? You could limit the size of all outgoing & incoming mail ( assuming 
> this is internet mail...) ???
> 
> Unfortunatly there is no way to limit the size of a GWmailbox, so youre on 
> the right track running a statistics check to see who  has the big files...
> 
> Welcome to the list...
> It has helped me out of some sticky situations, the people on it are 
> generally very knowagable and extremely helpfull. When your contracting, 
> you need some help!
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> > From a sunny Joburg
> 
> Matt Vigus
> 
> 
> > > > "Dennis Large" <dennis.large@louisville.edu> 09/14/99 03:05PM 
> > > > 
> > Hi!
> > 
> > Yesterday i becmae a member of this mailinglist and i have already found 
> > some good awnsers to known problems...
> > So i thougt i d try with some questions of my own...
> > I m sure someone out there has the answer!!!
> > Greetings from a cold Kiruna in the north of Sweden.
> 
> Welcome from a very dry Kentucky.
> 
> > 
> > We re runing gw 5.2.3 on netware 4.11
> > All clients are win95 with novel client 3.1 sp1.
> > Totaly 5100users within 2 postoffices.
> 
> Woah! Big POs.
> 
> > 
> > 1. Users can t see their sent items, if the number of items exceeds 1260.
> > If i ve sent 1259 mails they all show in the sent items folder. If i sent 1261 
> > mails the last mail (nr 1261) wont show in the sent items folder. The user 
> > have to delete some old mails for the latest to show up....
> > The mails are found if you do a search, but not direct.
> > This occured on several users that came to as many as 1260... Anyone 
> > has any ideas ?
> 
> I think that's normal.
> 
> > 
> > 2. We are administrating schools. Our problem is the quotasystem in gw. 
> > (It s missing ?) The problems is that the students love to fill thier mailboxes 
> > with the latest quakeround, mp3files, games etc.etc
> > What is the best way to solve this problem ?. I understand that you can 
> > autoarchive mails older than x days into the users homedirectory, and 
> there 
> > recieve the restrictions put up by the filesystem. But only by postoffices, is 
> > that right ? The restriction is not ment to be for all the users in our 
> > postoffices...
> > Any hints ?
> 
> This always gets into a religious argument around here, so I won't go into 
> what's actually being done. But my thoughts on it:
> 
> 1) auto archive is nice, but generally speaking you're archiving crap people 
> have forgotten about. You're better off doing an autodelete after some 
> reasonable time - 60-90 days. Make sure they have archive space 
> available wherever they want it, so they can save valid stuff on their own. 
> (If you use something other than home dir and lock that down, you can still 
> use dir quotas to limit that part, if desired.)
> 
> 2) To do auto cleanups, remember you have 2 options; a) client options to 
> delete after xx days or b) scheduled maint job where you can pick based 
> on dates, disk usage, etc.
> > 
> > 2B
> > I run gw-check, statistics,  every week to see what users who use most 
> > space (42000798 bytes in use by users mail) 
> > Is there a 3d part program who can read these gw-check-files and give 
> me 
> > like a top ten list of the users using most space ? I now search the 
> > checkfiles manually to find the highest number in the "in use by section"
> > 
> > Thankful for any hints...
> > 
> > Martin Lidström
> > ITC Kiruna
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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