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List:       kwin
Subject:    Re: Task Switcher UI
From:       Hans Chen <hanswchen () gmail ! com>
Date:       2012-03-01 23:35:03
Message-ID: CAFfzviBMJuTm9y2nKXyDx73FyQHBSJrPwpMO=bZiRBGpVg05bQ () mail ! gmail ! com
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On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 20:38, Thomas Lübking <thomas.luebking@gmail.com>wrote:

> Still too scary =)
> One could increase entropy by getting redundant text into the group title
> - but since it's only a mock...
>

Something like this?
--------------------------------------
Only show windows from
 The current application [ ]
 The current desktop [ ]
 The current activity [ ]
 etc.
--------------------------------------

It does seem quite nice, however, a possible problem I see is translating
it to other languages.

Also "include the desktop" does imo not belong into that list and the
> minimized state is at least a little different form the other ones (state
> ./. attribute) so i'd separate it with a line.
>

Agreed. Any suggestions how the minimized "filter" could be stated in a
better way?

   2. I believe most options are binary,
>>
> Nope, not sure about the idea behind, but multiscreen is ternary as well
> and therefore application, virtual desktop and activity should be as well?!
> -> tristate checkbox (+tooltip), radios, or two mutual checkboxes (ie. you
> can activate none or one toggles the other)
>

Urgh, I really hate "strange" checkboxes. :D In that case I would prefer
the comboboxes in the first screenshot (see reviewboard link). The problem
with comboboxes, in my opinion, is that it signals "here are a lot of
options", and since there are a lot of options already it just adds to the
scariness.

As said I can't see why you would want a third option except for the
minimize case, if anyone has any use-cases it would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Hans

P.S. Just as a side note, is this a common usage of entropy in this
context? I ask because I've seen it before, but being a physicist, I'm used
to the convention that higher entropy = more disorder. Confusing. :)

P.P.S. As before, please include me in CC when replying.

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dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:thomas.luebking@gmail.com">thomas.luebking@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
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Still too scary =)<br>
One could increase entropy by getting redundant text into the group title - but since \
it&#39;s only a mock...<br></blockquote><div><br>Something like \
this?<br>--------------------------------------<br>Only show windows from<br>

 The current application [ ]<br> The current desktop [ ]<br> The current activity [ \
]<br> etc.<br>--------------------------------------<br><br>It does seem quite nice, \
however, a possible problem I see is translating it to other languages.<br>

<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> Also &quot;include \
the desktop&quot; does imo not belong into that list and the minimized state is at \
least a little different form the other ones (state ./. attribute) so i&#39;d \
separate it with a line.<br></blockquote>

<div><br>Agreed. Any suggestions how the minimized &quot;filter&quot; could be stated \
in a better way?<br><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt \
0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">


   2. I believe most options are binary,<br>
</blockquote>
Nope, not sure about the idea behind, but multiscreen is ternary as well and \
                therefore application, virtual desktop and activity should be as \
                well?!<br>
-&gt; tristate checkbox (+tooltip), radios, or two mutual checkboxes (ie. you can \
activate none or one toggles the other)<br></blockquote><div><br>Urgh, I really hate \
&quot;strange&quot; checkboxes. :D In that case I would prefer the comboboxes in the \
first screenshot (see reviewboard link). The problem with comboboxes, in my opinion, \
is that it signals &quot;here are a lot of options&quot;, and since there are a lot \
of options already it just adds to the scariness.<br>

<br>As said I can&#39;t see why you would want a third option except for the minimize \
case, if anyone has any use-cases it would be \
appreciated.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Hans<br><br>P.S. Just as a side note, is this a common \
usage of entropy in this context? I  ask because I&#39;ve seen it before, but being a \
physicist, I&#39;m used to the  convention that higher entropy = more disorder. \
Confusing. :)<br><br>P.P.S. As before, please include me in CC when \
replying.<br></div></div>



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