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List:       koffice-devel
Subject:    Re: Substitute for the MSOOXML concept of Comments
From:       Thorsten Zachmann <t.zachmann () zagge ! de>
Date:       2010-07-15 7:54:57
Message-ID: 201007150954.57784.t.zachmann () zagge ! de
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On Thursday 15 July 2010 09:42:09 Jos van den Oever wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 14, 2010 09:01:33 pm Carlos Licea wrote:
> > Hello list,
> > 
> > In our tireless quest against bugs I've been entrusted to solve bug
> > 239476 BKO (from bugs.kde.org - BKO,) namely,
> > "kpresenter:msoffice2003:Comments are not displayed in kpresenter."
> > 
> > In MSOOXML such comments are represented as another file that is tied to
> > the proper slide through a relationship. A comment is merely a textbox
> > placed in the document with the comment as its content and some added
> > metadata (mainly the author, date and id of the comment) that is hidden
> > while on presentation mode (in the implementation MS2007 changes this a
> > bit showing a small rectangle instead of the whole textbox, showing it
> > only when clicked.) I feel that its main purpose is for the revision of a
> > presentation while being created. A very simple concept.
> > 
> > But I'm facing a problem: I haven't been able to find an exact semantic
> > equivalent to this concept in ODF. The closest is presentation:notes
> > which allows one to draw a "notes" page where we could place the notes
> > as they exist on the PPTX file. However, it has some drawbacks, to name
> > the most prominent: 1)the metadata would be lost unless we insert it on
> > the form of text inside a textbox; 2)the concepts are not quite the
> > same, notes are snips of text that explain or expand concepts, or even
> > recommend further reading for the audience; and overall we are doing
> > nothing more than replacing a specific concept (Comments) with a more
> > general one (the creation of a Notes page,) hence losing some context.
> 
> Comments in ODF presentations are added to slides in OpenOffice by using an
> extension of the spec that puts an annotation after the presentation notes.
> 
>    <office:presentation>
>       <draw:page draw:name="page1" draw:style-name="dp1" draw:master-page-
> name="Default">
>         <presentation:notes draw:style-name="dp2">
>         </presentation:notes>
>         <officeooo:annotation svg:x="1.216cm" svg:y="1.566cm">
>           <dc:date>2010-07-15T07:16:50</dc:date>
>           <text:p>Hello this is a comment.</text:p>
>         </officeooo:annotation>
>       </draw:page>
>   </office:presentation>
> 
> Note the use of officeooo instead of office as a namespace prefix.
> xmlns:officeooo="http://openoffice.org/2009/office"
> The element <officeooo:annotation> seems to have an identical definition to
> <office:annotation>
> 
> I will open an issue in the OpenDocument issue tracker to propose to allow
> office:annotation in draw:page. Until then I propose to use
> <officeooo:annotation>.
> 
> http://tools.oasis-
> open.org/issues/secure/QuickSearch.jspa?searchString=annotation
> 
that gets my vote too.

Thorsten
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