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List:       koffice-devel
Subject:    Re: KOffice website re-design
From:       Valerie <valerie_vk () yahoo ! com>
Date:       2008-05-20 3:35:54
Message-ID: 197216.81665.qm () web39605 ! mail ! mud ! yahoo ! com
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> On Monday 19. May 2008 19:19:09 C. Boemann wrote:
> > I don't think we should change the logos. They have been 
> > carefully crafted by a designer. The text is very much an 
> > integral part of a logo, so moving
> > the text is a big no no in my opinion.
> 
> +1

I must say I am very surprised by this reaction. This is the First
time I have heard of claims of deforming the logo just because you 
moved the text in the top-left banner.

You Do realize that about 80% of websites either do this for their 
top-left website banner (with no issues), or use a nearly text-only
variant (even if they have a logo), right?

The mostly vertical logos are good for images in articles and for
CDs, T-shirts, and other merchandise, but the text is often moved
for top-left website banners because of several very good reasons:
- to maximize text visibility (very important)
- to not waste horizontal space next to the logo

http://distrowatch.com/ shows the most popular website distros, and
they all have their "text underneath logo" scheme.

However, the following move their text to the right: Debian, Ubuntu 
and its variants, Red Hat, Mandriva, Fedora, Linux Mint, FreeBSD, 
Mepis, and ArchLinux. Sabayon kind-of. 

Slackware, Knoppix, Damn Small Linux and Vector Linux have a mostly 
text-only variant. PCLinux moved the text from bottom to center.

The only ones that use a text under logo scheme are dreamlinux, 
opensuse and gentoo:
- dreamlinux has an incredibly tall banner that I'd like to 
avoid
- gentoo has this squishy text under its logo when it could 
have had a nice visible version in that big vertical space that 
is wasted next to the logo.

Apart from that, KOffice, KDE, Mozilla, Gnome, Gimp, Inkscape, 
Scribus, Blender, Wordpress, Drupal, Joomla, Audacity, Pidgin, 
and others all place the text to the right of the logo.

OpenOffice and Abiword have nearly text-only logos, so that's
another story.

That said, I do like how OpenSuse approached the matter:

http://software.opensuse.org/
http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org

The following layout is thus acceptable (with some extra
items on the left):

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5803/examplebq2.png

However, I will leave this matter up to the web designers 
(unless you wish to design the website by yourself), as obviously
this isn't an issue for most open-source projects.


      
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