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Subject: Re: Usability GSoC for KOffice
From: Celeste Lyn Paul <celeste () kde ! org>
Date: 2008-03-11 15:11:27
Message-ID: 200803111111.27866.celeste () kde ! org
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I just spoke with Ellen and she says we can offer KOffice a project spot in
the OpenUsability Season of Usability. Please send me the following project
information so we can form a good CfP for interns:
* Description of the project
* Acceptance of usability among project members
* Availability of developer resources for usability work
* Possible student project tasks
Either me or Ellen will mentor the project (if we get a student application
for it). The student application phase will start soon in March and
selection will be in April.
Cheers!
~ Celeste
On Thursday 06 March 2008 08:54:15 Aron Stansvik wrote:
> (Adding Celeste back in Cc as I'm not sure she's subscribed)
>
> 2008/3/6, C. Boemann <cbr@boemann.dk>:
> > Although I think the idea of a usabillity project is great I fear that
> > without real coding it's not for GSoC.
> >
> > And having a programmer and usabillity expert in one person is generaly
> > consider to be not a good thing.
> >
> > so applying for season of usabillity is a far better way in my opinion.
> >
> > alternatively have a GSoC coder if we have a usabillity expert willing
> > to work for free providing guidelines to the coder. Rather fragile setup
> > though, if the usabillity expert can't deliver, then the coder is
> > penalised.
>
> Good points :(
>
> But one way or the other it would be really nice to use the resources
> of SoU/GSoC to give KOffice some usability love.
>
> Unfortunately as Celeste pointed out, the application period for SoU
> has passed, so that leaves us with your second (fragile) alternative.
> But is really a combined usability/coder that bad? Better than nothing
> I say :)
>
> Aron
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@gmail.com>
> > To: "Celeste Lyn Paul" <celeste@kde.org>
> > Cc: "For developer's discussion about KOffice" <koffice-devel@kde.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 2:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Usability GSoC for KOffice
> >
> > > Thanks for the quick response.
> > >
> > > 2008/3/6, Celeste Lyn Paul <celeste@kde.org>:
> > >> Hi Aron,
> > >>
> > >> > Reading your latest blog post [1] I got the idea of trying to get
> > >> > a GSoC student doing usability work for KOffice this year. Someone
> > >> > who could work with the (very important) points you bring up in
> > >> > your post.
> > >>
> > >> Would this be part of a larger project? As important as the user
> > >> research is,
> > >> I don't think it would take 3 months to complete (and I think the
> > >> Google folks like a little bit of coding to happen).
> > >>
> > >> What could happen is that the user research could be combined with a
> > >> UI review
> > >> which then resulted in issues to be resolved via coding.
> > >
> > > Good point, yes that's probably a good idea. We'd need to find a
> > > usability student with programming capabilities or vice versa.
> > >
> > >> > I dropped the idea in #koffice and at least Boudewijn was positive
> > >> > and said he'd be willing to co-mentor such a project.
> > >> >
> > >> > Do you think these issues are something that is fit for a GSoC
> > >> > project? Is there anyone involved in KDE Usability who could be
> > >> > willing to co-mentor with Boudewijn (or other KOffice developer)?
> > >> > Perhaps the second commenter on your post [2] is a possible
> > >> > candidate even?
> > >>
> > >> I think this is a great idea or also a good idea for the
> > >> OpenUsability Season
> > >> of Usability but unfortunately the project application period has
> > >> passed.
> > >> (You can ping ellen@openusability.org on the matter if you want). I
> > >> do not
> > >> know the person who commented on my blog so I cannot speak for him.
> > >> I hope
> > >> he does not mind me passing on their email address but it is
> > >> puelocesar@gmail.com.
> > >
> > > I'm sure he don't mind as he seemed eager to help KDE out :)
> > >
> > >> I am mentoring a Season of Usability project, but I have also
> > >> offered myself
> > >> to KDE to be able to comentor 1 or 2 projects on usability for the
> > >> Google
> > >> SoC. Even if you find a different design mentor, I will still be
> > >> happy to
> > >> give you guys some feedback and direction if you want.
> > >
> > > That's great. Before I put it on the GSoC ideas page on techbase,
> > > could other KOffice folks please chime in with their thoughts on how
> > > to concisely formulate this GSoC project idea? Should it cover only
> > > the parts of KOffice that are common to all applications, or should it
> > > "zoom in" and analyze and improve usability also on a per application
> > > basis?
> > >
> > > Aron
> > >
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> >
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Celeste Lyn Paul
KDE Usability Project & HCI Working Group
usability.kde.org
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