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List:       koffice-devel
Subject:    Re: [kspread] - KSpreadCell simplification
From:       David Faure <david () mandrakesoft ! com>
Date:       2002-12-13 14:40:31
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On Friday 13 December 2002 10:25, John Dailey wrote:
> You have a point with this -- my thinking was that the dialog was named 'Cell 
> Format' and so for consistancy it should be called format in the code.  
> Perhaps we have too much in one dialog box.  Maybe we should have separate 
> dialogs, one for the cell border/color/etc. and the other for the 
> date/scientific/fractional display type and things like that.
The single dialog is _very_ handy (and consistent with Excel IIRC).

> I'm not aware of any place in the user interface that uses the word 'layout'.  
> The more important thing in my mind is to have the ui use clear language.   I 
> don't see a problem giving it all the name 'format' but maybe others 
> disagree?  The names of source files and classes I think is secondary, and 
> only important for new programmers who want to work on kspread and will 
> expect things to be named the same since they are unfamiliar with the code 
> layout.
> 
> In any case both kspread_layout and kspread_format have the source history of 
> the KSpreadLayout class so whatever we finally agree on probably won't be a 
> big deal.
> 
> The things I plan to name KSpreadLayout are the painting offset of the output 
> text, total width/height needed to paint it, and things like this that are 
> internal.  What are these named in Gnumeric?

> > Sorry if this is a bit late, but I don't quite agree. IMHO, "Layout" is
> > related to the appearance of the cell, e.g border, size, color while
> > "Format" is how the cell's value is rendered, e.g dd/mm/yyyy for date,
> > decimal precision, and fractions. IIRC this concept is used in Gnumeric and
> > quite make sense.

For info:
the KWord/KPresenter terminology is that
* layout is indeed about layouting, stuff related to painting/width/height/etc.
* format is the set of settings for some data: colors, borders, font etc.
* stuff like date format and decimal precision is called ... hmm, KoVariableFormat.
So in fact we don't use just "format", but "TextFormat" and "VariableFormat".

For KSpread I would suggest that kspreadlayout is indeed about layouting,
and to introduce CellFormat (for borders colors etc.) and 
ValueFormat or DataFormat for the date format stuff.

- -- 
David FAURE, david@mandrakesoft.com, faure@kde.org
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~david/
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