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List:       koffice
Subject:    RE: Hopeful suggestion for kword
From:       Nicolas Goutte <nicog () snafu ! de>
Date:       2001-04-25 10:43:21
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1. KCite

Sorry, I have made an error. Reading the developer's message again, it 
seems that the program is not out yet.

Message: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=koffice-devel&m=98808102823296&w=2
(Whole thread: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=98808128600003&w=2&r=1 )

But perhaps you could contact the developer to encourage or to help him.

2. XSL

I do not think you can use XSL on KWord files correctly.

First KWord's file are tarred and gzipped but the most important problem is 
that the formating of the text is defined using character positions. So for 
every change of text you make, you have to adapt the formating information.

And completely changing KWord's file format will not be done for long (if 
it will be done!), as the problems of KWord 0.8 have made lose many months 
of development. So it is not the time to break any important think like a 
file format now!

Have a nice day/evening/night!

-----Original Message-----
From:	Michael E. Smoot [SMTP:mes5k@cs.virginia.edu]
Sent:	Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:54 PM
To:	'koffice@master.kde.org'
Subject:	RE: Hopeful suggestion for kword


I've been thinking about some sort of Linux EndNote like tool as well.
Here are some thoughts.

2 applications.  First is a database for maintaining references.  The
obvious (to me) choice is xml.  I think the DTD (or schema) for this part
should be generic and possibly modeled after the tags used in bibtex.

Second would be a plugin (or whatever) for KWord.  This would consist of
xsl docs to transform the reference xml into KWord xml.  Different
stylesheets for different citation formats.   Of course this would have to
be integrated with KWord so that citations can be made within a paper as
it is being typed (like bibtex).  It doesn't sound like thats too easy
right now.

I couldn't find any information on google or the kde site about KCite.  On
a previous search I found something called kbiblio but I don't know if its
related.  If anyone can provide links, info, etc. I'd appreciate it.

Asside from being stupendously (stupidly?) busy, I'd like to help on this.


Mike


On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Nicolas Goutte wrote:

> There is a project KCite in the huge KDE world (no, it is not part of
> KOffice!)
>
> Today (UTC), its developer (Pascal Niklaus) has asked on the 
koffice-devel
> mailing list how the integration with KWord could be done.
> However, the news are rather bad, as KWord is missing for now even basic
> intregration of programs that must access directly KWord's text (for
> example a dictionnary.)
>
> If or when KCite itself would support KWord's file format is also 
unknown.
>
> Have a nice day/evening/night!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Praedor Tempus [SMTP:praedor@uswest.net]
> Sent:	Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:55 PM
> To:	koffice@kde.org
> Subject:	Hopeful suggestion for kword
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am a researcher at the University of Utah.  As such, I have the
> requirement
> of being able to write papers containing many citations and the attendant
> reference page(s).  In windoze or with a Mac, one can use Word plus 
EndNote
> in combo to easily produce such research papers.  EndNote (if you are not
> familiar with it) handles and organizes your bibliography databases and
> also
> integrates with Word (or even WordPerfect) so that the writer can easily
> add
> citations to a paper.  When ready to print out the final paper, EndNote
> generates the correct citation style (user selectable or one can create 
new
> styles) and properly formatted reference page(s) to go with it.  This is
> far
> better than having to do this by hand.
>
> (...)
>
> --
> Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain.
>
>

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