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Subject:    Re: users book about KOffice
From:       Seth Kurtzberg <seth () cql ! com>
Date:       2004-01-30 15:05:12
Message-ID: B4389A8A-5335-11D8-B0BF-000A959AF1CE () cql ! com
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On Jan 30, 2004, at 8:22 AM, Eugene Nine wrote:

> I think an outline mode should be easy to write/emulate with text 
> frames, I haven't tried it out yet, but if that would work that could 
> be a paragraph/page/chapter of a book on how to do it.  Simply have a 
> frame for each level of outline.  I would like to recomend that we do 
> write the book in Kword, kind of like the old Borland standard (did 
> they start that or was it even before them) of the compiler needing to 
> be able to compile itsself, Kword/Koffice should be fully capable of 
> handeling a project as large as a book about Koffice.

That requirement (the compiler able to compile itself) goes back to the 
original K&R compiler.

> Or possibly build a Kpublisher app which is a front end to the Kparts 
> which allows more flexibility in a document than each individual part.
>
> The next question would be to make a book open source or not.  I have 
> seen a few like that, Oreilly is an example, a few of thier books are 
> prints of documentation freely available online, your simply paying 
> for the paper in your hand and their time to print and bind it.  Would 
> it be wise to allow the book to be open source and freely available on 
> the web but available from publishers for a fee?  If so do we want to 
> keep it in a docbook like the KDE help files?  How much of the help 
> files do we want to duplicate?

I've been watching the discussion and wondering when this would come 
up.  The justification for doing this rather than enhancing the online 
documentation is?

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> Eugene Nine
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> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: David Faure <faure@kde.org>
> Reply-To: For discussion about KOffice <koffice@mail.kde.org>
> Date:  Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:48:33 +0100
>
>> On Friday 30 January 2004 16:02, Eugene Nine wrote:
>>> I guess the first decision will be how much overlap between the 
>>> online help and a book do we want.  I've purchased books before 
>>> which were basically prints of the online help and nothing else and 
>>> I've purchased books which were completely advanced features and 
>>> assume you have read every online help page and I've purchased books 
>>> somewhere in the middle.   I would also like to see a chapter on 
>>> scripting and the command line file conversion tool and maybe some 
>>> information on remote deployments for someone that may be in an 
>>> office environment and have end users that use Koffice.  That 
>>> reminds me does Kword have an outline mode?  Something where it 
>>> recognizes the headings and lets you expand/collapse them and drag 
>>> them around, I haven't seen anything like that, must be time for a 
>>> feature request.
>>
>> No scripting other than DCOP yet.
>>
>> There is no outline mode like in MSWord, but you can see the outline
>> in the sidebar and jump to headers (no dragging though AFAIK).
>>
>> -- 
>> David Faure, faure@kde.org, sponsored by Trolltech to work on KDE,
>> Konqueror (http://www.konqueror.org), and KOffice 
>> (http://www.koffice.org).
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