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Subject: Re: users book about KOffice
From: Holger Schroeder <holger-kde () holgis ! net>
Date: 2004-01-30 15:09:14
Message-ID: 200401301609.14861.holger-kde () holgis ! net
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Hi,
when somebody writes a book about koffice, it would be very cool to write that
book _with_ koffice, so you can proove, that koffice is already good enough
to do that. ( or you can be a tester for that functionality and report back
all the things that you are missing / that are going wrong... ) i guess the
developers will help you by working on those bugs you may encounter.
Holger
On Friday 30 January 2004 11:43, Raphael Langerhorst wrote:
> On Thursday 29 January 2004 18:49, Eugene Nine wrote:
> > Eugene Nine
> >
> > I thought somewhere back in one of the early post someone was
> > volunteering
> >
> > :). I thought koffice 2 or whatever the next version is going to be was
> >
> > going to be soon from all the talk I was seeing so I didn't understand
> > how a book could get published in time and was volunteering to help out
> > on a book for the next release. Since the next release is far enough out
> > that a book on it will be possible I can volunteer to help on on that.
> > But after seeing my communication skills you may not wich to take me up
> > on that offer
> >
> > :)
>
> I think it's great if you volunteer to help out. Since KOffice consists of
> many parts it should also be easy to distribute work between more authors.
>
> A general structure of the book might be:
>
> * introduction
> * what is KOffice
> * what does it have to offer (features,...)
> / what can be done with KOffice
> / KOffice and OOo interoperability
> / areas of deployment
> / What's about this 'K'?
> * what is KDE
> * what is OSS
> * how to install
> * prerequisites (kdelibs)
> * KOffice on Linux
> * rpm/deb package from Linux distributors
> * from source
> * KOffice on MAC OS X
> * KOffice on Windows (Cygwin(possible?))
>
> * A short introduction to KDE
> * the panel
> * starting KOffice
> * ... ?
>
> * KOffice overview
> * all that's common in all parts including general look&feel
>
> * Wordprocessing with KWord
> * Spreadsheets with KSpread
> * Presentations with KPresenter
> * Flowcharts and Diagrams with Kivio
> * Business class reports with Kugar
> * Database management with Kexi
> * Drawings with Karbon and Krita
> * difference between vector graphics and pixmap(?) graphics
> * Utilities KFormula, KChart
> * ... ?
> * KOffice and other office suites (including interoperability)
> * file format
> * OOo
> * Abiword
> * Gnumeric
> * MS Office
> * Hancom Office
> * older versions of KOffice
>
> * other everyday KDE applications:
> * Kontact
> (* Konqueror)
>
> * future developments
>
> * KDE and KOffice in the internet
>
> * ??
>
>
> Any suggestions on this general book-structure?
>
> Anyone wants to work on one of these chapters?
>
> You think a book with this structure is interesting for users?
>
> My mother tongue is German. What do you think of a translation to English/
> German?
>
> The book will of course cover the next major release of KOffice - the one
> with OOo file formats - either 1.4 or 2.0.
>
>
> I think if the book is well designed (content and look/layout) it will be a
> great support for people wanting to use KOffice - or trying to find out
> which office suite suites them best.
>
>
> greetings,
> Raphael
>
> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > From: Raphael Langerhorst <raphael-langerhorst@gmx.at>
> > Reply-To: For discussion about KOffice <koffice@mail.kde.org>
> > Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:33:38 +0100
> >
> > >comments inline...
> > >
> > >On Thursday 29 January 2004 14:56, Eugene Nine wrote:
> > >> So it sounds like a Koffice 2.0 is much further away than I thought.
> > >> Which is god timing for someone who wishes to write a book, they can
> > >> start on 1.3 and follow the changes/additions and just make the book
> > >> match.
> > >
> > >That's quite the reason why I started the thread (in addition to the
> > > file format change to OOo which should be finished with the next major
> > > release ... IMHO).
> > >
> > >Is anyone volunteering for writing a book?
> > >
> > >> I was worried about using koffice a while back sine I had heard about
> > >> the format changing with 2.0 until I found the command line
> > >> import/convert tool so I felt safe that I could simply convert
> > >> everything over at one point with that tool.
> > >
> > >Yes, KOffice 2.0 is surely some distance off. To my knowledge it is not
> > > even decided what the next version number will be.
> > >
> > >> I assume the templates will follow the OO standard as well, one
> > >> thing I can't do easily in Kword at the moment is use a templae for an
> > >> Avery label. I have to run open office for that. Any chance there
> > >> will be command like file viewers/editors (I'm drifting way off the
> > >> topic of the thread here so if someone wants to know why I'll start a
> > >> new thread and explain).
> > >
> > >I think if you are missing some functionality then you should surely
> > > start either a new thread for it or file in a wish item in the bug
> > > tracking system.
> > >
> > >> Eugene Nine
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > >> From: David Faure <faure@kde.org>
> > >> Reply-To: For discussion about KOffice <koffice@mail.kde.org>
> > >> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:13:09 +0100
> > >>
> > >> >On Thursday 29 January 2004 14:32, Eugene Nine wrote:
> > >> >> I was looking at the koffice site and the developer.kde.org and I
> > >> >> can't find anything on koffice 2.0?
> > >> >
> > >> >We have only just started the changes post 1.3.
> > >> >The roadmap is yet to be decided upon, the only clear thing is the
> > >> > work on the OOo file format.
> > >> >
> > >> >--
> > >> >David Faure, faure@kde.org, sponsored by Trolltech to work on KDE,
> > >> >[...]
> > >>
> > >> [...]
>
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