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List:       koffice
Subject:    Re: Page sizes not consistent with ghostscript
From:       Mr E_T <troll () logi ! net ! au>
Date:       2003-03-03 13:04:38
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Michael Goffioul wrote:

> Nicolas Goutte wrote:
> >
> > I can confirm the bug (on KDE 3.1.x.)
> >
> > KWord, KPresenter and KSpread have it. KChart has not. I have not tested the
> > other KOffice applications.
> >
> > Have a nice day/evening/night!
> >
> > > >
> > > > While messing around with this I have noticed that there is a bug in
> > > > kwords kdeprint dialog usage.
> > > >
> > > > If I print from kedit I get under the printer property dialog a choice of
> > > > paper size for most printer systems.
> > > >
> > > > But under kword I only get the page size if I use cups and then use the
> > > > properies->driversettings and then choose ok. Then I have to reopen the
> > > > print dialog for the paper size list to be initialized.
> > > >
> > > > I dont think this should happen.
> > >
> > > Michael?
>
> (See bug report #55416). Basically, with the agreement of koffice
> developers (especially David), we decided to disable the page size
> selection if the application set the page size explicitely, like
> KWord, KSpread... This has been done to avoid a mismatch (and
> confusion) between the page size selected in the print dialog, and
> the one defined in the application. The same for the paper
> orientation. The idea was simple: let the application defines size
> and orienation to KDEPrint and don't let the user change it, to
> avoid confusing the application.
> For me, it's not a problem to revert the changes made at that time,
> the question is more what's best, and what the koffice developers
> think.
>
> Michael.
>
>

Except that koffice and qt based applications only allow a small choice of paper
sizes to begin with. so to use a none qt paper size you need to choose custom.

With cups that means you get the default paper size for the printer - A4 or
letter are the usual.

Problem is when you want to print to say Env DL size.(Yes it exists)

My point is that the programmer cannot know what paper is physically available
in the printer.

And not to allow the user to change the programs specified default is not a
verry good choice.

I am disapointed that because of one applications short commings that every
application using kdeprint is therefor hamstrung.

If this is to be the default action I would prefer the less functionality of
qprinter.

In fact I wouldnt mind having a choice within the kde options in this case.

This is because my wife is NOT a linux savvy user and went nuts trying to print
an envelope.

Who comes first the programmer or the end user?.

Please for the sanity of the user don not perpetuate this.

-- 
regs MR E_T
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