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List:       koffice
Subject:    Re: Fwd: KWord menu layout
From:       David Faure <david () mandrakesoft ! com>
Date:       2002-10-10 10:14:20
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On Monday 23 September 2002 12:55, Charles de Miramon wrote:
> Le Lundi 23 Septembre 2002 10:18, David Faure a écrit :
> > Forwarding suggestions for the KWord menus - for the UI experts out there
> > ;)
> >
> > a) File. Document information would be ok near Statistics.
> I agree. I would also put there Create Document fromTemplate because it is an 
> option you seldom use. The top part of the menu should be reserved for 
> options you use the most

Well, the idea is that "Create Document from Template" is at the same place
in all KOffice applications, currently...

> > b) Format. Show header/footer should be put in View (or, at
> > least, in Insert), like many other programs do.
> That is what MsWord does. But, in  KWord philosophy Headers and Footers should 
> be considered as Frames. And maybe we should think more about the ui of 
> Frames before making a decision about Headers and Footers. Also, what to do 
> of headers and footers in text mode ?

In MSWord the room for headers/footers always exists. In KWord when you ask for
a header it makes room for it, so it resizes the main frame. Since it modifies the document,
it can't be put in View.
Insert would be a solution, possibly, althought not very suited for a toggle action.

> > c) When a table is not selected in the document, shouldn't it be
> > put *all* greyed (and not only the inner menu items)?
> Yes, it would be better

We have "Table Styles" there - shouldn't one be able to edit them even without 
selecting a table?
I see your point for submenus though (Row, Column, Cell...)

> For me, the Insert menu is not so illogical. First what you can insert in a 
> frame and second creating new frames.
Yup.

> Special character
> Hard frame break
> - ---
Ok, I added a separator

> Footnote
> Comments
> Link
> Variable
> Expression
> Bookmark
+ToC, File

> ------
> Textframe
> Table > in a new frame / inline in the current frame
>  Formula
>  Object frame
>  Picture > from file... / Clipart... / Scan image

The order here, in the current menu, comes from the order of the key bindings (F2->F5)
(which have been chosen to match KPresenter, partly).

> For the Table of Contents, I'm wondering if it should not be created 
> automatically in a  new frame. Generally Table of Contents or Indexes have 
> special formatting options (fonts, margins, page numbers) that could be more 
> easily controlled in a special frame.

KWFrameLayout is already complex enough as it is, IMHO ;)
Fonts and margins are easily controlled via styles.

> My own ui shopping list :
> - Double clicking on a frame open the the frameset manager for the frame
> - The title of the windows is not Frame Properties - KWord but Frame 
> Properties for MyFoobarframe
Done, thanks for the suggestions.

> - In the Edit Menu an option 'select all text in the current frame'
It's there already?

- -- 
David FAURE, david@mandrakesoft.com, faure@kde.org
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~david/
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