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List:       kmail-devel
Subject:    Re: Download message list, MS Outlook [Re: Bug#11750: SPAM Filter]
From:       Don Sanders <sanders () kde ! org>
Date:       2000-09-28 10:10:14
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On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Vadim Plessky wrote:
> I have experienced following problem.
> While testing Advanced POP account, some messages were not deleted from
> server (yeh...) /I know that patch was applied yesterday, but there are
> delays with RPMs on Mandrake's primary site, so I still use old KMail/

Ok, the problem should be fixed now.

> As it was already close to 5MB sitting on server, I decided to clean
> mailbox with Outlook. (well, messages are marked as DEL, yes?)
>
> Loaded Windows. Selected Send/Receive mail in Outlook.
> And: Downloading message 1 of 1495... /I can add that when I returned back
> to Linux, there were no DEL indicators on them, and I had to download 1495
> messages once more and delete all them in folders/
>
> So, there is something wrong with marking messages as DEL, or MS Outlook
> doesn't check for DEL messages, or re-marks them in the beginning. /I
> canceled session on message 20/

I'm not going to spend a lot of time answering this, but basically:

1) You don't seem to understand how the DELE command works.
2) There is a way to determine if a message on the pop server has already 
been downloaded but it's not  an official part of POP3, it's a nonstandard 
extension made by a particular POP3 server vendor.

> But, returning back to topic.
> first, MS Outlook downloaded List of messages, and only then started mail
> download.
> So, I think, it's possible - to have only message names.
>
> And, I'd like to have opportunity to delete messages from server, even if
> they were not "double-downloaded". Just becuase I don't want message from
> somebody.

How does Outllok allow you to delete a message with out downloading it? How 
does the user interface work. How do you instruct outlook to "delete this 
messages from the server".

BFN,
Don.

>
> Cheers,
>
> Vadim
>
> On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Malte Starostik wrote:
> |  On Mit, 27 Sep 2000, Michael Haeckel wrote:
> |  > > Perhaps it would be possible to download only the headers of such
> |  > > messages and then decide (in kmail) if you would like to receive or
> |  > > delete the mail, when you are online next time.
> |  >
> |  > That works for newsreaders, but with the pop protocol this is
> |  > difficult, because as far as I know there is only a command that
> |  > downloads the whole mail. With IMAP this would be possible if KMail
> |  > ever will support it.
> |
> |  TOP <msgnum> <linecount>
> |
> |  -Malte
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