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List:       kfm-devel
Subject:    RE: FWD: RE: FWD: A question about konqueror
From:       Jonathan Lee <jel846s () smsu ! edu>
Date:       2001-05-26 16:10:08
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Okay, here's the exciting scoop!!  My wife was using the KDE 2.1.1 help system 
and commented to me, "hey isn't this tab thing in the sidebar what you were 
talking about working on?"  The help system is run through Konqueror and 
somebody obviously decided to create a side bar with tabular structure.  Who 
is this person or persons?  It would seem that the framework is already done - 
though due to moving I don't have an Internet connection viable for 
downloading the source yet to look.  Could this side bar structure be ported 
directly to the main Konqueror interface and a tree tab/plugin developed.  The 
help side bar already has a search tab developed for local searches that could 
be expanded for external/network/internet searches.  This would simplify the 
process significantly and save me and Jelmer the headache of trying to 
reinvent the wheel or at least a big portion of it.  I saw the plugin tabs 
including the tree, a notes area to dictate and read from, a search system for 
local/nonlocal searches, and a help system tab.  The framework and last two 
plugins seem to be done, can someone verify this please.

Oh yeah, the http://207.44.242.45/~qwertz/sidebar3.html site didn't load for 
me.  Is it down?  Maybe being updated?

An apology to Carsten Pfeiffer who seemed to inadvertantly become a middle man 
in much of the fleshing out of this idea.

Jonathan Lee

>===== Original Message From Carsten Pfeiffer <carpdjih@sp.zrz.tu-berlin.de> 
=====
>On Samstag, 26. Mai 2001 14:51 Jonathan Lee wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>> It doesn't look like Jelmer is around at the moment (or maybe has responded
>> to the kfm-devel list, something I need to subsribe to. So I apologize for
>
>he did reply, unfortunately just to me alone (I guess that was an accident,
>but I won't simply forward it here without knowing his intentions. The
>problem is, he said he won't be able to read mails until Sunday, so this will
>have to wait a bit).
>
>> done), I'd personally like to know where he's gone with his vision of the
>> project to prevent duplicate work.  No need to reinvent the wheel so to
>> speak. Update here, I'm moving this week and starting a new job - so that's
>
>He said, there's nothing concrete yet, and he's also a bit hesitant to design
>the sidebar himself and would appreciate some help on that. He also proposed
>an irc meeting where you can discuss all the issues. I'll jump in as soon as
>I have some time in the next days.
>
>> going to render me a bit on the fringe anyway, and I have a new two week
>> old son named Alex and he absorbs most of the rest of my time.  I can look
>
>Congratulations :)
>
>> into starting something like this mid to late June, but wanted to cover all
>> my bases before I did.  My school taught Java/Scheme/Perl/VB (the VB was a
>> stupid reqirement). So I'm teaching myself C/C++ on the fly here and that
>> will likely be a hinderment, which is why I had hoped someone had started
>
>Java will be a big help, the Java API is somewhat similar to Qt's/KDE's.
>
>> work on updating the sidebar or at least creating plug-in tags in the code
>> to make sure all of this stays _sane_.  A few of my friends code well in C,
>
>I think the sidebar will be redone -- the current one will actually become a
>plugin for the new one. Have a look at
>http://207.44.242.45/~qwertz/sidebar3.html
>for some ideas how the sidebar should work.
>
>> and are interested in such a project, but they are teaching themselves C++
>> right at the moment for this and are worried we might open the proverbial
>> pandora's box.  I'll keep people informed as we go, but might appriciate
>> any major opinions about where toes lie so when we stomp on them, we know
>> we're doing it ahead of time.  :-)
>
>:) Ok, do you have some ideas what sort of plugins you want to create? Might
>be easier to design the sidebar if we have some usecases what it is supposed
>to make possible.
>
>PS: write the subscribe-mail to kfm-devel-request@kde.org, not kfm-devel :)
>
>Cheers,
>Carsten Pfeiffer

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