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List:       kde-user
Subject:    Re: KRASH
From:       Cristian Tibirna <ctibirna () total ! net>
Date:       2000-03-14 0:00:50
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On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Sean Armstrong wrote:

> 
> My humble apologies. It seems that I offended everyone
> with my opinion of KDE 1.1.2. This is the reason why I
> wanted to try out KRASH before the release of kde 2.0
> to see if it was even worth messing with. The kde I
> remember was a memory hog like windows for my little
> 133. So I ditched it and used smaller faster wm's. I
> thought maybe KDE 2.0 and KRASH would be a little
> better and possibly have improved the interface more.
> I meant no ill intentions toward anyone on this list,
> I was just getting somewhat frustrated with the KRASH
> rpm's not loading properly.

Hey, don't be so touchy :-)

In fact, desktop environments which try to match or even surpass
functionality of windows will have to use quite some resources. From user
reports, it seems KDE does a better job than windows on a same machine
(and this mainly thanks to linux's inherent qualities). But it's quite
sure that, if processor speed is less important, a fair amount of memory
(40M for decent speed) is needed. 

Yes, KDE-2 is better than KDE-1 in what concerns memory usage and speed.
To such a point that I upgraded my old small sparc5 with linux at work
from KDE-1 to KDE-2 so that I can get some work done :-)

> Thanx though for all of
> your help. Now I have a better area to search. Oh, by
> the way I looked through the kde-user archive and
> checked the KDE site and didn't find anything as
> useful other than 'use the .tar files instead of the
> RPM's', which is almost useless info that doesn't help
> correct the problem.
> Thanx,
> SA

Hmmm! I'm sorry for this missing. It's sure it's a very often asked
question. We should add this to the FAQ for sure.

Friendly, Cristian

> --- Cristian Tibirna <ctibirna@total.net> wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Sean Armstrong wrote:
> > 
> > > Ive downloaded the latest KRASH RPM's and
> > installed
> > > them on my system. I'm running redhat 6.2 on an
> > K-5
> > > 133 Mhz chip. The software seemed to install
> > > correctly. It put all of the KRASH stuff in
> > /opt/kde2.
> > > I tried to run the startkde command located in
> > this
> > > directory and got plenty of errors. I then put the
> > > /opt/kde2/bin directory in my path and tried the
> > > command again. This time everything started but
> > then
> > > crashed before initiating X. I got errors saying
> > that
> > > kwin and the rest could not connect to an X
> > server.
> > 
> > KDE-2.0 runs under X, of course. Put
> > '/opt/kde2/bin/startkde' in your
> > ~/.xinitrc then do `startx`
> > 
> > > The only other WM I'm running is sawmill/gnome. I
> > am
> > > not the most proficient linux person, but would
> > like
> > > to try out KRASH since it will take KDE forever to
> > > finally release KDE 2.0
> > 
> > Last time I was told about KDE release it was surely
> > *not* to take
> > forever :-) You reporting bugs (perhaps some real
> > ones in the future) will
> > surely help.
> > 
> > > and KDE 1.1.2 sucks IMHO.
> > 
> > You're right, it's YHO :-) True, compared with
> > KDE-2, KDE-1 is quite
> > archaic :-) Anyways, 55% of X users prefer KDE-1 to
> > other GUIs :-)
> > 
> > > Can anyone help me get this up and running? Thanx
> > in advance. SA
> > 
> > BTW. you could have helped yourself. I'm almost sure
> > that your question
> > should appear somewhere in an FAQ, on the kde web
> > site.
> > 
> > Cristian
> > 
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