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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Ordering in toolbars
From:       Jaroslaw Staniek <js () iidea ! pl>
Date:       2006-08-31 21:23:59
Message-ID: 44F7536F.1040202 () iidea ! pl
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Daniel Ehn said the following, On 2006-08-19 11:00:

> I'm a happy KDE user (well, one could say I'm addicted to it) since a few 
> years and hope I can be of help in many different ways. So my first post to 
> the KDE mailinglists is about ordering in toolbars. I have seen it in several 
> applications and with the recent discussions 
> (http://clarencedang.blogspot.com/2006/08/order-of-zoom-actions-vote-for-your.html) 
> I would like to make some clearifications.
> 
> The attachement is from KPDF and the original toolbar is the upper one. From a 
> usability point of view KDE need to more extensively use "stereotype"-rules:
> 
> 1. Increasing values on the right side. Same for ordering of buttons that are 
> manipulating values.
> 2. Increasing values above.
> 3. Increasing values clockwise.
> 4. Handles and buttons on the right side of the information they are changing.

BTW: Speaking of the +/-/zoom widgets I think about dropping the oldish habit 
of bloating toolbars and move the stouff to statusbar. Also, using a slider 
widget could be an improvement (editable combo is annoying for 99% of users I 
know).
These are nothing like a new idea: current apps use that all over the world, 
let's just mention Apple apps.

Can I hope this will be considered for the upcoming HIGs?
Comments welcome.

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