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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: konqueror's kpart system usability
From:       Leo Savernik <l.savernik () aon ! at>
Date:       2006-07-30 21:07:06
Message-ID: 200607302307.07023.l.savernik () aon ! at
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Am Sonntag, 30. Juli 2006 19:53 schrieb Iñaki:
> El Domingo, 30 de Julio de 2006 19:24, Leo Savernik escribió:
> > > To
> > > make the problem more obvious, right now when I view a konqueror kpdf
> > > embedded document there are two 'Tools' top level menu items.
> >
> > Seems to be a merge error. This hasn't got to do anything with usability.
>
> Ok, that is an error, but now open a PDF embebbed in Konqueror and you'll
> see two "Back" buttons and two "Forward" buttons (for Konqueror and
> Kpdf_part), all of them together and above the tabs.

This is a blunder. Look at kviewshell, they use the correct icons for their 
intra-page navigation. I've just reported this to the kpdf-devs 
(http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131561).
>
> Do you really think that this is not confusing? do you think that this is
> the best way? is it perfect as it is now?

It's Good Enough(tm). Actually, the forward/back actions should be merged into 
konquerors (would be technically feasible), but given the way intra-page 
navigation is implemented for kpdf, it'd be nothing but a nuisance. Having 
them separate is the better choice.
>
>
> Please, look at the following layouts:
>
> -  Current layout of embedded kpdf :
>    http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~soma/bldr/kparts/konqui_kpdf_current.jpg
>
> -  Kpdf embedded with split toolbars:
>    http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~soma/bldr/kparts/konqui_kpdf_suggestion.jpg

I don't see how this is less confusing to a typical user. It's still the same 
icon and label, just different positions.
>

mfg
	Leo
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