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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Systray Usability
From:       Benjamin Meyer <ben () meyerhome ! net>
Date:       2005-02-05 23:31:08
Message-ID: 200502052331.08664.ben () meyerhome ! net
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On Saturday 05 February 2005 11:16 pm, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Saturday 05 February 2005 06:04, ra1n wrote:
> > Probably was me that started the discussion, your Idea seems good to me,
> > I proposed the same for system tray applications, there is no need for
> > them to be displayed in the taskbar because they provide feedback from
> > their systray icon.
>
> and for people that don't have a systray visible? or wonder why only some
> windows are there in the taskbar?
>
> what people in this discussion seem to be missing is that technical
> implementation and perceived interface are _completely separate things_.
> sometimes they mimic each other, but often the don't.
>
> in this case, general users do *not* see the systray icon as connected to a
> window (any window). it's a distinct bit of the interface. which is why
> closing an application's window (versus saying "Quit this program")
> removing the systray icon is unexpected for many/most; it's also why
> removing such windows from the taskbar would also be incomprehensible.
>
> i'm all for putting action menus in the taskbar, and even moving some
> systray icon functionality to the taskbar.... but treating the window and
> the systray icon as obviously joined items is a wrong assumption.

How about having every application sit in the System "Tray". :)  And the 
system tray would be intigrated into the taskbar to make them look the 
same...

-Benjamin Meyer

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