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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Sliders and spinboxes.
From:       Charles de Miramon <cmiramon () kde-france ! org>
Date:       2004-12-17 15:15:29
Message-ID: 200412171615.29695.cmiramon () kde-france ! org
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Le Jeudi 16 Décembre 2004 23:16, Esben Mose Hansen a écrit :
> On Thursday 16 December 2004 18:00, Charles de Miramon wrote:
> > I think the problem around Klipper is larger than the question of  the
> > range of the slider. Klipper has grown a number of options (especially
> > actions) that are complex to understand and use and act as a competitor
> > to the drag and drop mechanism.
>
> I agree that actions are a power user feature --- and a feature I was much
> inclined to remove. However, the feedback I receive indicate massive usage,
> so maybe I was wrong. I don't want to base such a decision a mere
> supposition --- I want measurements, or at least real world experience.

The only way to 'remove' a feature in KDE is to split the application between 
a vanilla version and a super application with all the toppings. Nobody will 
object that you suppress actions in Klipper if you can answer 'you need them, 
then install SuperKlipper in kdeaddons'. 
In refactoring the Klipper code, you should try, I think, to move in a 
solution with a common core and several shells more or less complex.

>
> > The general goal is to diminish the complexity of Kicker and Kicker's
> > applets.
>
> I'm sorry to hear that :-( I would rather increase the power and usability
> of the applets.
>
Over configurability does not mean more power and more usability. 

Our actual user base is mostly power users. But, we would like to build a 
desktop where people with little or no interest in computers feel confortable 
without alienating our actual user base. 

Klipper is important because it is installed as a basis on Kicker in the KDE 
distributed by most distributions. New users will discover it very quickly.

Your plan for Kicker looks great. I think everybody will be willing to help 
you to create the best usability our common brain can fathom

Cheers,
Charles
-- 
cmiramon@kde-france.org
http://www.kde-france.org
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