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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: kdemultimedia (setCheckedState)
From:       "Jamethiel Knorth" <jamethknorth () hotmail ! com>
Date:       2004-05-19 19:08:51
Message-ID: BAY7-F38cJvdSXXGISr0002b571 () hotmail ! com
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>From: David Faure <faure@kde.org>
>Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:44:49 +0200
>
>On Wednesday 19 May 2004 13:32, Clarence Dang wrote:
> > On Wed, 19 May 2004 05:14 pm, David Faure wrote:
> > > So there are two solutions: ensuring that options really look like 
>options
> > > (without a verb, like "Toolbar Foobar Visible"), or ensuring that 
>those
> > > menu items are actions, where the description represents the action - 
>so it
> > > has to change if the action changes.
> >
> > I have to agree with Scott and Malte for the same reasons they gave.  
>Why
> > wasn't the first solution chosen?
>
>Do you really think "Toolbar Foobar Visible" makes a good menu item name?
>
>Sigh. Why does everything have to be so controversial in KDE, and where
>was everyone when I posted
>http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=107608719413110&w=2
>(which was even cc'ed to kde-usability)?
>The only answer on kde-usability was this one: 
>http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-usability&m=107609286521568&w=2
>which was from Gerard (who asked me to implement that change).
>
>I don't care what happens now. This is a usability issue. If the 
>kde-usability
>people can come up with a decision, I'm happy, whichever way it is.

You were completely right in those posts you linked to. The menu should 
state the action that will be done. That is the basic meaning of menu 
entries, and that is the manner in which they should behave. I definitely 
say keep it.

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