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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Panel Arrangement KCM
From:       Aaron Seigo <aseigo () kde ! org>
Date:       2004-02-12 15:20:04
Message-ID: 200402120820.04094.aseigo () kde ! org
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On February 11, 2004 20:31, Jamethiel Knorth wrote:
> >the only important metric w/regards to width is that it fits within 640px.
> >being wide isn't automatically a bad thing.
>
> Just from my personal test on a 640x480 screen, due to window borders, the
> row for tabs, the buttons, and the navigation panel on the side, the
> effective size the module needs to fit into is about 520x420. If there were

we support 800x600 screens, which leaves us less than 800x600 for windows, and 
the decision was to settle on 640x480 usable space for windows. 

this is different than us supporting 640x480 screens, which as you note, means 
even _less_ space =)

> > > Appearance->Advanced:
> > > - Hide button size (should be close to show/hide hide button)
> >
> >no. this is a rarely accessed setting and should have sane defaults.
>
> This is one thing that can be very irritating. It is not a "Rarely Accessed
> Button".

actually, yes it is. YOU may access it, but it is, overall, rarely accessed. 
most importantly, it tweaks the size of one type of button on one type of 
interface element. where else in KDE (or any other GUI) is there such a 
similar "ok, make this one button N pixels big" setting? it's ludicrous. 

fortunately, we're reasonable people in KDE and realize that there is a demand 
for it in this one particular case with some decent reasons for it. so 
instead of simply removing it all together as some other projects would, we 
move it somewhere out of the way.

yes, it's compromise. but one that works best for the majority. kicker's kcm 
is already too busy =)

- -- 
Aaron J. Seigo
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