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Subject:    Re: developer.kde.org/documentation/standards/kde/style
From:       Frans Englich <frans.englich () telia ! com>
Date:       2003-12-29 20:37:04
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On Saturday 27 December 2003 21:19, Casey Allen Shobe wrote:
> Waldo Bastian (Saturday 27 December 2003 11:42)
>
> > +<p>A window, be it a dialog, main window or any other type, must
> > +display conveniently in a size corresponding to 640x480 pixels. Further,
> > +when used in combination with the KDE enviroment the window must be
> > +usable and practical when the display runs in 800x600 resolution.
>
> Further != furthermore.  But I think that this is not adequate.  If

I really ment "further"(and its semantics ofcourse) but it doesn't really 
matter, I'll change it to furthermore :)

> something fits in a 640x480 area, then how could it possibly be unusable or
> unpractical in an 800x600 (minus panels, window decorations) area?  This is
> confusing because it lists two common resolutions and you're not sure which
> your window must fit in.

I find it pretty clear..

  This is further compounded by variable window
> decoration and panel size  Instead I would recommend setting a limit on the
> number of pixels that an application window is allowed to use, 

And that is 640x480

> without
> regard to the surrounding environment (and why a height limit of only 640
> for a minimum supported screen height of 800?

Waldo told me the existing (unofficial) rule of tumb was those my patch(after 
correction) described so he will probably back it up the best ;-P But I think 
it sounds good - a window in 640x480 on a 800x600 display is practical, a 
window which fits with a "couple of pixels" to spare is not. But frankly, I 
don't think 640x480 will be followed that strictly, the de-facto standard 
residing will probably be if the windows behaves convenient in 800x600, 
because of the how difficult it is to measure(styles etc.). The goal is to 
make a display in 800x600 usable and it will be that with more or less 
windows in 640x480, so it's ok..

Further, ( :P ) I'm thinking of adding the following:

<p>In addition to the sizes, a window's content such as text, must
be resonable clear and easy to interpret on a screen identical or
corresponding to the resolution 800x600 on a 14" CRT monitor, that is,
roughly 13" viewable.</p>

What do you think?


			Frans



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