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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: RMB - once again
From:       Sander Devrieze <s.devrieze () pandora ! be>
Date:       2003-08-10 12:23:06
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Op zondag 10 augustus 2003 14:07, schreef Henrique Pinto:
> On Sunday 10 August 2003 08:32, Sander Devrieze wrote:
> > Of course: we should depends on more things to pass this information.
> > Collor can be a part of the markation.
>
> A visible "Most used applications" menu title could also be interesting

idd

> > > How would be a good implementation of this?
> > > I can't think of an implementation in which my mom wouldn't ask me what
> > > happened to "her" menu.
> >
> > IMO:
> > http://devrieze.dyndns.org:3000/gallery/konqueror_rmb_menu/open_with_menu
>
> Changing default association dynamically? I'm not sure I like your idea.

It's only a part of the proposal...but of course first a dialog should ask if 
the user wants it.

> And, btw, how does your grandma feels when she discovers a menu entry
> changed it's place? In my school, we disabled the most frequently used
> applications list because users were getting confused by menu entries not
> being in the same place.

She too (K-menu list), but IMO it seems that this is because it's not clear 
enough to her that this list isn't a part of the static things. I think the 
problem is that it's not clear that this is something else.

IMO there are 2 solutions to solve this:
1) Switch it off and loose functionallity like you said. (Gnome style of doing 
things)
2) Solve the problem that it isn't clear that it's something else.
I prefer the last solution :)

> How would your proposal eliminate the "my menu changed w/o telling me"
> problem? It is one of the most common problems I know now. In my school, I
> had to disable dynamic menu entries everywhere in KDE, because most of our
> userbase (around 600 people) was getting confused by it.

Like I said above, I think this can be solved by making the difference between 
static and dynamic menus clear. Also the dynamic menu proposal for MIME types 
will change several x times less than the recent apps list.

- -- 
Mvg, Sander Devrieze.
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