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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Proposal: kde guide systray update
From:       Eric Ellsworth <whalesuit () softhome ! net>
Date:       2003-02-03 21:30:09
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Datschge,
Your updated guidelines look good.

One gotcha the document doesn't address is the interaction of services 
represented in the system tray with session management.  For example when I 
set session managment to "empty session" in the control panel, KAlarmd, 
Klipper, and laptop battery monitor still come up.  The battery monitor 
should probably not be tied to session management, but what about the others?  
This is not intended as rhetorical question, BTW.

In any event, I think the systray guidelines should work in tandem with the 
session management guidlines.  Do we have session management guidelines, and 
if so where might they be found?

Cheers,

EE


> On Saturday 01 February 2003 05:15, Datschge@gmx.net wrote:
> > Hello =)
> > Attached in this email you can find a first draft of my proposed
> > update for
> >
> > http://developer.kde.org/documentation/standards/kde/style/basics/systray
> >.h tml Corrections and further comments are welcome and wanted. =)
>
> how would the animation referred to be provided and look like?
>
> how would applications such as kmail use a systray icon? currently it
> offers a simple notification in the system tray that makes absolutely no
> sense not to be there unless there is a kmail process (window) running.
> users expect/want such a systray icon, so this isn't a needless ad-hoc
> feature...
>
> i think there is a further distinction between types of uses of the
> systray:
>
>   o apps that use it as their main interface
>   o apps that use it as a readily available status indicator
>
> examples of the former include kalarm and kopete (the contact list is not
> it's main interface in my mind...), while kmail falls into the second...
>
> (oh, and there is a typo in the original and in yours: "non-document
> specific applitions" should be "non-document specific applications")
>
> > I also attached a further small "addone" for the already existing
> > collection of usability reports about Kopete.
>
> this is an implementation detail that the user should not be bothered with
> IMO. there should either be a systray icon or their shouldn't be. it should
> either always be there, or it should disappear when the last kopete window
> closes
>
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