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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Use MDI or SDI with wisdom
From:       Troels Tolstrup <troels () tolstrup ! org>
Date:       2002-11-01 14:09:46
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On Fredag 01 november 2002 12:47, Lubos Lunak wrote:
> On Friday 01 November 2002 12:53, Martijn Klingens wrote:
> > On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Lubos Lunak wrote:
> > >  But since you ask, could you first tell me how this would be
> > > useful. If I put external taskbar at the top, how is this
> > > different from tabs (yeah, I know it looks a bit different, but
> > > what's the _real_ difference)?
> >
> > The taskbar grouping is done automatically, whereas the window
> > manager tabs are activated using an explicit user action. Basically
> > Kwin needs an
>
>  No, you don't understand (or maybe I still don't). Use external
> taskbar, turn off grouping, make it show apps only on the current
> desktop. Now, how is every virtual desktop different from a group of
> tabbed windows? Different as 'different in functionality'.

You still don't understand IMO :-)

The difference between tabs and windows is that the task bar shows all 
windows, but not tabs. Sometimes you might want to group serveral 
windows together so they only show up in the taskbar as one window, and 
so you can resize and minimize it in one shot. Right now i have 3 
mozilla windows open, but 17 tabs open. I really wouldn't want to have 
17 windows open :-) Im also using the tabs in konsole. Another good 
thing about tabs is that they are usually closer to where your mouse 
is. (in the actual window, close to the toolbar), and not at the edge 
of the screen. 

The only thing i would question is whatever there would be enough 
programs that would really benefit from tabs to justify putting it into 
kwin, but user patterns vary so who am i to say which programs the 
users would like to group together like this. For me personally, 
webbrowsers and shell sessions are the only programs that i tend to 
have a gazillion windows of, but others might have 17 instances of 
kaboodle running of which they might want to group some of them 
together :-)

Now if this could work with non kde/qt programs as well... I would love 
to have serveral emacs frames grouped into tabs ;)

Mvh
Troels

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