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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: KDE's menu implementation.
From:       Reinhold Kainhofer <reinhold () kainhofer ! com>
Date:       2002-05-28 22:48:01
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Am Mittwoch, 29. Mai 2002 00:26 schrieb Maks Orlovich:
> > Greyed out menus item go depressed when you rollover them with the mouse.
> > 'Rollovers' like this indicate that an item is in fact active and ready
> > to be used. This is a strong convention from the Web. KDE's menus should
> > not give such mixed signals.
>
> Well, does the web have disabled menu entries? I don't belive so, so it's
> hardly a good standard.. And this is not all that clear cut -- the mouse
> over effect provides feedback, which is crucial for usability; and I am not
> certain that sacrificing that is worthwhile

Yes, the mouse over effect provides feedback -- it tells the user that this 
item is available (e.g. look at toolbar buttons. They only have the hover 
effect if they are enabled). I don't think Simon meant to remove the whole 
feature, but just to fix the bug that disabled menuitems also show the mouse 
over effect. That's what confuses the user and breaks the convention 
(toolbars not showing a mouse over effect for disabled items, while menus 
do).

Reinhold



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