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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: KCron prototype
From:       Benjamin Meyer <icefox () mediaone ! net>
Date:       2002-03-03 2:36:23
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On Thursday 28 February 2002 06:39 pm, Eric E wrote:
> Ok all, I had a crack at a prototype for adding a KCron job.
> I chose to set up the times similar to printing dialog boxes, rather than
> messing around with repeated checking of boxes or lists.  Let me know what
> you think of this.  Other ideas would be using the current button and check
> box based layout, or a set of questions and combo boxes.

One possible solution that just occured to me would be a list that you can 
select multiple items in.  As a list it wouldn't take up much room, it would 
be clean and do what is needed for both regular and power user.

-Benjamin Meyer

> Some notes and ideas:
> 	+Advanced Options buttons would hide all below that, and their text would
> change to Normal Options.
> 	+The Advanced Options button on the Schedule page should be where the
> Months box is, but I didn't want to put widgets on top of each other.
> 	+ Presumably all the Advanced Options stuff can be done later, when
> someone finds time.
> 	+If we came up with a list of Common Task categories, like:
> 		Backups & File Operations
> 		KDE-specific tasks
> 		KDE maintenance tasks
> 			Cleaning cache
> 			Delete orphaned files
> 			Check configurations ***
> 		System maintenance tasks
> 	the We could run a little wizard and/or fill in the right entries.
> 	+ The bottom text box should parse the crontab entry and display it as a
> sentence
> 	The bottom button titles should change to "Update this task" and "Discard
> these changes".
> 	+ More information for the Weekdays box in Schedule would explain that if
> you use weekdays together with days of the month, the task will run at both
> times.  This is sort of unclear at the outset
> 	+ The Test It button will run the command as it would be invoked by crond,
> with the same environment settings and all, and return the output in a
> little message window with OK at the end.
>
> If nobody can find the KCron developer after a few months, perhaps I'll
> teach myself some KDE programming by doing this one myself.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Eric
>
> On Thursday 28 February 2002 12:21 pm, Jennifer E Jobst wrote:
> > Not I, since I don't have the programming knowledge to do it. I was
> > merely knocking around some redesign ideas and thought I'd see if anyone
> > has any input. I never contacted the KCron developer to get his take on
> > it since nobody on this list had any comments. But feel free to take it
> > and run, though I think getting some more input would probably be a good
> > idea...
> >
> > -j
> >
> > Jennifer E. Jobst
> > Linux Information Development
> > IBM Linux Technology Services
> > (512) 838-8298, T/L 678-8298
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                       Benjamin Meyer
> >                       <icefox@mediaone.net>        To:
> > kde-usability@mail.kde.org Sent by:                     cc:
> >                       kde-usability-admin@m        Subject:  Re: KCron
> > prototype ail.kde.org
> >
> >
> >                       02/28/2002 06:48 AM
> >                       Please respond to
> >                       kde-usability
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Did anyone impliment this?
> >
> > -Ben
> >
> > On Thursday 24 January 2002 03:30 pm, Jennifer E Jobst wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Here's the redesigned UI prototype for KCron (see the Sev 1 usability
> > > bug in the KCron report to see what I'm trying to fix). I did 2
> > > versions of
> >
> > the
> >
> > > prototype, and I like v2 better. You'll need Qt Designer to view the
> > > prototypes, and they really don't *do* anything (e.g. the menus don't
> >
> > work,
> >
> > > and there's no back end - the information you see is all bogus) -
> > > they're just supposed to give an idea of how the UI might look and
> > > function.
> > >
> > > Thoughts? Sugs? Ideas?
> > >
> > > -j
> > >
> > > (See attached file: kcron_prototype_v1.ui)(See attached file:
> > > kcron_prototype_v2.ui)
> > >
> > > PS. For v2, clicking the columns across the top would organize that
> > > column's entries in alphabetical order. For example, clicking on the
> > > User column would display all the values for tasks and variables
> > > alphabetical
> >
> > by
> >
> > > user.
> >
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