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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Upgrade to kdegraphics-3.5.9-2.fc8 Breaks Things
(Richard Heck)
2. Re: Upgrade to kdegraphics-3.5.9-2.fc8 Breaks Things (Rex Dieter)
3. Re: Upgrade to kdegraphics-3.5.9-2.fc8 Breaks Things (Rex Dieter)
4. Re: Upgrade to kdegraphics-3.5.9-2.fc8 Breaks Things
(Richard Heck)
5. Re: Upgrade to kdegraphics-3.5.9-2.fc8 Breaks Things (Rex Dieter)
6. Re: kde-4.1b1 (kwhiskerz)
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From: Richard Heck <rgheck@comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Upgrade to kdegraphics-3.5.9-2.fc8 Breaks
Things
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Richard Heck wrote:
> Richard Heck wrote:
>
>> In particular, neither kdvi nor kpdf will work now. The former gives me
>> "No viewing component found", and the latter gives me "Unable to find
>> kpdf part".
>>
>>
>>
> And moreover, kghostview is crashing on startup; and kview reports:
> kview: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeinit_kview.so: cannot
> open shared object file: No such file or directory
> It seems that /usr/lib64/libkdeinit_kview.so no longer exists---though
> locate reports it as being there, since it was before:
> [rgheck@bootp-27 arche]$ ls `locate libkdeinit_kview`
> ls: cannot access /usr/lib64/libkdeinit_kview.so: No such file or directory
> /usr/lib64/libkdeinit_kview.la /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kview.la
>
>
I seem to have this now in /usr/lib/ rather than in /usr/lib64/. ??
rh
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Upgrade to kdegraphics-3.5.9-2.fc8 Breaks
Things
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Richard Heck wrote:
> Richard Heck wrote:
>> In particular, neither kdvi nor kpdf will work now. The former gives me
>> "No viewing component found", and the latter gives me "Unable to find
>> kpdf part".
>>
>>
> And moreover, kghostview is crashing on startup; and kview reports:
> kview: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeinit_kview.so: cannot
> open shared object file: No such file or directory
> It seems that /usr/lib64/libkdeinit_kview.so no longer exists---though
> locate reports it as being there, since it was before:
> [rgheck@bootp-27 arche]$ ls `locate libkdeinit_kview`
> ls: cannot access /usr/lib64/libkdeinit_kview.so: No such file or
> directory /usr/lib64/libkdeinit_kview.la /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kview.la
rpm -V kdegraphics kdegraphics-libs
sounds like something got borked.
-- Rex
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From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Upgrade to kdegraphics-3.5.9-2.fc8 Breaks
Things
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Richard Heck wrote:
> Richard Heck wrote:
>> Richard Heck wrote:
>>
>>> In particular, neither kdvi nor kpdf will work now. The former gives me
>>> "No viewing component found", and the latter gives me "Unable to find
>>> kpdf part".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> And moreover, kghostview is crashing on startup; and kview reports:
>> kview: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeinit_kview.so: cannot
>> open shared object file: No such file or directory
>> It seems that /usr/lib64/libkdeinit_kview.so no longer exists---though
>> locate reports it as being there, since it was before:
>> [rgheck@bootp-27 arche]$ ls `locate libkdeinit_kview`
>> ls: cannot access /usr/lib64/libkdeinit_kview.so: No such file or directory
>> /usr/lib64/libkdeinit_kview.la /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kview.la
>>
>>
> I seem to have this now in /usr/lib/ rather than in /usr/lib64/. ??
You're multilib, it's ok to have both
kdegraphics-libs.i386
and
kdegraphics-libs.x86_64
though you probably don't really need/want kdegraphics-libs.i386
-- Rex
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From: Richard Heck <rgheck@comcast.net>
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:58:21 -0400
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Upgrade to kdegraphics-3.5.9-2.fc8 Breaks
Things
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Rex Dieter wrote:
> Richard Heck wrote:
>
>> Richard Heck wrote:
>>
>>> Richard Heck wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> In particular, neither kdvi nor kpdf will work now. The former gives me
>>>> "No viewing component found", and the latter gives me "Unable to find
>>>> kpdf part".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> And moreover, kghostview is crashing on startup; and kview reports:
>>> kview: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeinit_kview.so: cannot
>>> open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>> It seems that /usr/lib64/libkdeinit_kview.so no longer exists---though
>>> locate reports it as being there, since it was before:
>>> [rgheck@bootp-27 arche]$ ls `locate libkdeinit_kview`
>>> ls: cannot access /usr/lib64/libkdeinit_kview.so: No such file or directory
>>> /usr/lib64/libkdeinit_kview.la /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kview.la
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I seem to have this now in /usr/lib/ rather than in /usr/lib64/. ??
>>
>
> You're multilib, it's ok to have both
> kdegraphics-libs.i386
> and
> kdegraphics-libs.x86_64
>
>
The .so files seem to be in kdegraphics, whereas the .la files are in
kdegraphics-libs. I had both the .la files, but only the i386 .so file.
> though you probably don't really need/want kdegraphics-libs.i386
>
>
Here's the problem:
[root@bootp-27 log]# grep kde messages
...
Jun 17 12:24:01 bootp-27 yum: Installed: kdegraphics - 7:3.5.9-2.fc8.i386
...
I ended up with the wrong one of those, for some reason. Uninstalling
and then installing the x86_64 manually fixed the problem. I take it I
do NOT want both versions of kdegraphics, right?
Any idea why that might have happened? This was a normal "yum update". A
yum issue?
rh
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:18:02 -0500
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Upgrade to kdegraphics-3.5.9-2.fc8 Breaks
Things
Message: 5
Richard Heck wrote:
> Rex Dieter wrote:
> > Richard Heck wrote:
> >
> > > Richard Heck wrote:
> > >
> > > > Richard Heck wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > In particular, neither kdvi nor kpdf will work now. The former gives me
> > > > > "No viewing component found", and the latter gives me "Unable to find
> > > > > kpdf part".
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > And moreover, kghostview is crashing on startup; and kview reports:
> > > > kview: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeinit_kview.so: cannot
> > > > open shared object file: No such file or directory
> > > > It seems that /usr/lib64/libkdeinit_kview.so no longer exists---though
> > > > locate reports it as being there, since it was before:
> > > > [rgheck@bootp-27 arche]$ ls `locate libkdeinit_kview`
> > > > ls: cannot access /usr/lib64/libkdeinit_kview.so: No such file or directory
> > > > /usr/lib64/libkdeinit_kview.la /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kview.la
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I seem to have this now in /usr/lib/ rather than in /usr/lib64/. ??
> > >
> > You're multilib, it's ok to have both
> > kdegraphics-libs.i386
> > and
> > kdegraphics-libs.x86_64
> >
> >
> The .so files seem to be in kdegraphics, whereas the .la files are in
> kdegraphics-libs. I had both the .la files, but only the i386 .so file.
>
> > though you probably don't really need/want kdegraphics-libs.i386
> >
> >
> Here's the problem:
> [root@bootp-27 log]# grep kde messages
> ...
> Jun 17 12:24:01 bootp-27 yum: Installed: kdegraphics - 7:3.5.9-2.fc8.i386
> ...
> I ended up with the wrong one of those, for some reason. Uninstalling
> and then installing the x86_64 manually fixed the problem. I take it I
> do NOT want both versions of kdegraphics, right?
WTF is kdegraphics.i386 doing in x86_64 updates?
Hint: it shouldn't be there.
-- Rex
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I am also noticing some problems.
Firstly, I would like to say that this beta is terrific, compared to 4.0.x and
that I am thrilled that the ugly desktop icons are finally bye-bye for good. I
like the new device notifier and I have been able to mount my camera and usb
hard drive as a non-root user without any hassles, despite selinux enforcing.
This is a milestone! I hate clutter on my desktop, especially as dolphin
already shows me what I have and how to get to it. There is also the find
utility, if I really cannot find something (by the way, find takes aeons to
start)
I am excited about the new desktop paradigm and this ought to set kde apart
from legacy desktop paradigms. I have been waiting for a long time for someone
to come up with something new. I have given it considerable thought (when
things are not advancing fast enough for me, which is every couple of weeks or
so), but I was not able to conceive of anything that might be useful. Thanks
to the developers for having the balls to give something new a try, despite
all of the negativity in the blogs. Kde will be great again!
Anyway, now to the problem and answer to the thread initiator.
I like to have korganizer start in the system tray with the reminder daemons
running. 95% of the time, it doesn't start and I have to start it manually.
Even then, only about 50% of the time will it go into the systray, otherwise I
have to start it manually a second time! Rebooting and the same problem all
over again. Also, the side panel in korganizer, with the calendar, the details
of the todos and the resources, is not shown at all, even though I have them
enabled in the menu bar up top.
When a reminder is triggerred, when I select dismiss, it often dismisses not
just the highlighted reminder, but the whole list! Also (I have filed a bug
report), when I defer/suspend a reminder and reboot or turn off/on my computer,
the suspended reminder is forgotten and I am never reminded at all.
I have not noticed any problems with akregator, and I use it daily. kmail
seems to be working just fine. I had a slight problem with it when I upgraded
from the fedora repos to kde-redhat: my outgoing servers were not recognized
and I had to reconfigure them, but my identities and incoming servers were fine.
Selinux is generating errors on logging out: something about /dev/root, I
think, but it doesn't hinder logging out and I have selinux in enforcing mode.
System notification appears to be fine, although sometimes pulseaudio doesn't
work and I get a message about not being able to contact the sound server, or
something (don't remember exactly, but I suspect it must be phonon, the xine
backend, that crashes on boot). Usually, it works, though.
The system tray is a bit of a mess: sometimes icons are written over others,
or there are gaps between the icons where one moved over but the others didn't
follow, or there will be a white rectangle with nothing in it. Also,
networkmanager doesn't always show up, but that seems to be less of a problem
than in 4.0.5. It has definitley improved in this beta release.
All in all, I am very pleased with this beta and can't wait for beta2! This is
really looking very good. I have been following Asiego's blog and I will
probably not use most of what he is talking about (something about folder
views and whatnot), as I don't even understand it, but it should be great once
I can get my hands on it. No doubt, I will figure out how it can be useful,
once I have it installed.
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desktop icons are finally bye-bye for good. I like the new device notifier and I have \
been able to mount my camera and usb hard drive as a non-root user without any \
hassles, despite selinux enforcing. This is a milestone! I hate clutter on my \
desktop, especially as dolphin already shows me what I have and how to get to it. \
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margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I am excited about the new desktop paradigm and \
this ought to set kde apart from legacy desktop paradigms. I have been waiting for a \
long time for someone to come up with something new. I have given it considerable \
thought (when things are not advancing fast enough for me, which is every couple of \
weeks or so), but I was not able to conceive of anything that might be useful. Thanks \
to the developers for having the balls to give something new a try, despite all of \
the negativity in the blogs. Kde will be great again!</p> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
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margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I like to have korganizer \
start in the system tray with the reminder daemons running. 95% of the time, it \
doesn't start and I have to start it manually. Even then, only about 50% of the time \
will it go into the systray, otherwise I have to start it manually a second time! \
Rebooting and the same problem all over again. Also, the side panel in korganizer, \
with the calendar, the details of the todos and the resources, is not shown at all, \
even though I have them enabled in the menu bar up top.</p> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">When a reminder is \
triggerred, when I select dismiss, it often dismisses not just the highlighted \
reminder, but the whole list! Also (I have filed a bug report), when I defer/suspend \
a reminder and reboot or turn off/on my computer, the suspended reminder is forgotten \
and I am never reminded at all.</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I have not noticed any \
problems with akregator, and I use it daily. kmail seems to be working just fine. I \
had a slight problem with it when I upgraded from the fedora repos to kde-redhat: my \
outgoing servers were not recognized and I had to reconfigure them, but my identities \
and incoming servers were fine.</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p style=" \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Selinux is generating errors \
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margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
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to be fine, although sometimes pulseaudio doesn't work and I get a message about not \
being able to contact the sound server, or something (don't remember exactly, but I \
suspect it must be phonon, the xine backend, that crashes on boot). Usually, it \
works, though.</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
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icons are written over others, or there are gaps between the icons where one moved \
over but the others didn't follow, or there will be a white rectangle with nothing in \
it. Also, networkmanager doesn't always show up, but that seems to be less of a \
problem than in 4.0.5. It has definitley improved in this beta release.</p> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
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with this beta and can't wait for beta2! This is really looking very good. I have \
been following Asiego's blog and I will probably not use most of what he is talking \
about (something about folder views and whatnot), as I don't even understand it, but \
it should be great once I can get my hands on it. No doubt, I will figure out how it \
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