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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: desktop-effects with KDE on F7 (Jesus Jr M Salvo)
   2. Re: desktop-effects with KDE on F7 (Eli Wapniarski)
   3. kdeaddons (Allen Winter)
   4. Re: kdeaddons (Rex Dieter)
   5. Re: kdeaddons (Allen Winter)
   6. Re: kdeaddons (Rex Dieter)
   7. Re: kdeaddons (Rex Dieter)
   8. Re: kdeaddons (Allen Winter)
   9. Re: kdeaddons (Clive Messer)

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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] desktop-effects with KDE on F7
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On 04/07/07, Eli Wapniarski <eli@orbsky.homelinux.org> wrote:
>
> Oh.... one other "dumb" question. In the Beryl manager, under select Windows
> managers, you have selected Beryl?... right?...
>
> Eli
>

That's it. I knew it was something simple. It was set to KWin.
Anyway, Berly draws blank black windows, while Compiz works better
except that my window title and border are "gone" / transparent,
except for the window corners.

Thanks. I'll tweak it a bit.

John




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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] desktop-effects with KDE on F7
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On Tuesday, 3 בJuly 2007 19:45:03 Jesus Jr M Salvo wrote:
> On 04/07/07, Eli Wapniarski <eli@orbsky.homelinux.org> wrote:
> > Oh.... one other "dumb" question. In the Beryl manager, under select
> > Windows managers, you have selected Beryl?... right?...
> >
> > Eli
>
> That's it. I knew it was something simple. It was set to KWin.
> Anyway, Berly draws blank black windows, while Compiz works better
> except that my window title and border are "gone" / transparent,
> except for the window corners.
>

You will need to choose and Emerald Theme.

Eli


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For my x86 FC6 system I seem to be picking up the kdeaddons from updates
rather than from kde-redhat.

The  kdeaddons I'm getting requires kdemultimedia-extras for some reason.

Anyone else seeing this?

-Allen




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Allen Winter wrote:
> For my x86 FC6 system I seem to be picking up the kdeaddons from updates
> rather than from kde-redhat.
>
>   
Is that a problem?  (afaik, shouldn't be).

> The  kdeaddons I'm getting requires kdemultimedia-extras for some reason.
>
> Anyone else seeing this?
>
>   
kdeaddons includes noatun plugins, and noatun is now in 
kdemultimedia-extras.  It *may* make sense moving these plugins out of 
the main pkg, into something like kdeaddons-extras too.  opinions?

-- Rex





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On Friday 06 July 2007 7:57:27 am Rex Dieter wrote:
> Allen Winter wrote:
> > For my x86 FC6 system I seem to be picking up the kdeaddons from updates
> > rather than from kde-redhat.
> >
> >   
> Is that a problem?  (afaik, shouldn't be).
> 
> > The  kdeaddons I'm getting requires kdemultimedia-extras for some reason.
> >
> > Anyone else seeing this?
> >
> >   
> kdeaddons includes noatun plugins, and noatun is now in 
> kdemultimedia-extras.  It *may* make sense moving these plugins out of 
> the main pkg, into something like kdeaddons-extras too.  opinions?
> 
Here are some issues, don't know if they matter all that much:

 - When I did a yum update there was an unresolved dependency against
    the noatun plugins --  the kdemultimedia-extras package was not
    automagically found and installed for me.  So I had to rpm --erase kdeaddons
    so my yum update could continue.

 - It seems strange to me that a package from updates (kdeaddons) depends
   on a package from kde-redhat (kdemultimedia-extras)

 - I completely trust the kde-redhat packages and get a little scared when I see a kdefoo
   package installed from updates.  I suppose I'll need to change my perceptions.

-Allen

 




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Allen Winter wrote:
>
> Here are some issues, don't know if they matter all that much:
>
>  - When I did a yum update there was an unresolved dependency against
>     the noatun plugins --  the kdemultimedia-extras package was not
>     automagically found and installed for me.  So I had to rpm --erase kdeaddons
>     so my yum update could continue.
>
>   
yum bug.
>  - It seems strange to me that a package from updates (kdeaddons) depends
>    on a package from kde-redhat (kdemultimedia-extras)
>
>   
kdemultimedia-extras is also in Fedora Extras.

>  - I completely trust the kde-redhat packages and get a little scared when I see a kdefoo
>    package installed from updates.  I suppose I'll need to change my perceptions.

I'm helping in maintaining fedora's kde packages now (F7 and on anywa), so it
shouldn't be too strange.  I'm continually working to get all of
kde-redhat modifcations/changes pushed back to fedora packaging... as
much as possible.

The end result will hopefully be that kde-redhat repo will get smaller 
over time.  The only items remaining here will be primarily
* stuff that I have not yet convinced my fellow fedora/kde maintainers 
to accept.

-- Rex




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Rex Dieter wrote:
> Allen Winter wrote:
>
>>  - I completely trust the kde-redhat packages and get a little scared 
>> when I see a kdefoo
>>    package installed from updates.  I suppose I'll need to change my 
>> perceptions.
>
> I'm helping in maintaining fedora's kde packages now (F7 and on anyway)

You have a point here though, since F-7/kde-redhat packaging diverges 
from (stock) FC-6 ones a bit, I'll work to get our (kde-redhat) 
packaging built/ported more completely for FC-6 soon.

-- Res




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On Friday 06 July 2007 10:03:41 am Rex Dieter wrote:
> Rex Dieter wrote:
> > Allen Winter wrote:
> >
> >>  - I completely trust the kde-redhat packages and get a little scared 
> >> when I see a kdefoo
> >>    package installed from updates.  I suppose I'll need to change my 
> >> perceptions.
> >
> > I'm helping in maintaining fedora's kde packages now (F7 and on anyway)
> 
> You have a point here though, since F-7/kde-redhat packaging diverges 
> from (stock) FC-6 ones a bit, I'll work to get our (kde-redhat) 
> packaging built/ported more completely for FC-6 soon.
>

No worries.
You do a phenomenal job. 

Thanks for all your great work. 

-Allen




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On Friday 06 Jul 2007, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Rex Dieter wrote:
> > Allen Winter wrote:
> >>  - I completely trust the kde-redhat packages and get a little scared
> >> when I see a kdefoo
> >>    package installed from updates.  I suppose I'll need to change my
> >> perceptions.
> >
> > I'm helping in maintaining fedora's kde packages now (F7 and on anyway)
>
> You have a point here though, since F-7/kde-redhat packaging diverges
> from (stock) FC-6 ones a bit, I'll work to get our (kde-redhat)
> packaging built/ported more completely for FC-6 soon.

Me too! I'd rather have my kde packages from kde-redhat, at least for FC6. It 
would seem that much has changed with the packaging for FC7, but I'm not 
ready for FC7 yet. Would still appreciate a little extra attention on the FC6 
packages if/when you have the time, Rex.

And I just noticed that since going from 3.5.6 to 3.5.7 kde redhat packages, 
that I no longer get a META-INF tab when looking at the file properties from 
konq for a mp3 file. Do I need an extra package from livna? (I've currently 
excluded 'kde\*' updates from extras.)

kdeaddons-3.5.6-2.fc6
kdeadmin-3.5.6-1.fc6
kdeartwork-3.5.6-1.fc6
kdeartwork-extras-3.5.6-3.fc6
kdeartwork-icons-3.5.6-0.1.fc6
kdeartwork-kxs-3.5.6-3.fc6
kdebase-3.5.7-5.fc6
kdebase-devel-3.5.7-5.fc6
kdebindings-3.5.6-1.fc6
kdebindings-dcopperl-3.5.6-1.fc6
kdeedu-3.5.6-1.fc6
kde-filesystem-3.5-6
kdegames-3.5.7-1.fc6
kdegraphics-3.5.6-1.fc6
kde-i18n-British-3.5.6-0.1.fc6
kdelibs-3.5.7-8.fc6
kdelibs-apidocs-3.5.7-8.fc6
kdelibs-devel-3.5.7-8.fc6
kdemultimedia-3.5.7-1.fc6
kdemultimedia-devel-3.5.7-1.fc6
kdemultimedia-extras-3.5.7-1.fc6
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-5.lvn6
kdenetwork-3.5.7-1.fc6
kdepim-3.5.7-2.fc6
kdepim-devel-3.5.7-2.fc6
kdesdk-3.5.7-5.fc6
kdesdk-devel-3.5.7-5.fc6
kde-settings-3.5-18.fc6
kde-settings-kdm-3.5-18.fc6
kdetoys-3.5.6-3.fc6
kdeutils-3.5.6-1.fc6
kdevelop-3.4.0-2.fc6

Regards

Clive
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