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Subject: [kde-promo] Re: [SPAM] Re: kde haters' blog
From: Martin Klapetek <martin.klapetek () gmail ! com>
Date: 2011-07-22 12:25:47
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On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 13:56, Dotan Cohen <dotancohen@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 12:28, Aaron J. Seigo <aseigo@kde.org> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 14, 2011 05:33:34 Dion Moult wrote:
> >> Anyways, I think we have an appropriate time coming up for a Hate Week.
> 4.7
> >
> > first: such feedback is meaningless without a corresponding effort to
> address
> > the issues. work is what is important, not words.
> >
>
> I believe that Stuart Jarvis addressed that by proposing to limit the
> posts _only_ to those who are actively fixing bugs. Therefore,
> contributors such as yourself would be able to chime in, but users
> such as myself who only report bugs and feature requests would be
> absent. I would even volunteer to be the one to comb the posts for
> issues to confirm and then to file in bugzilla.
>
The problem I see with this is, that users most probably wouldn't stay
silent. Some of them might miss the "announcement" and once they see a
"hateposts" (although positive), they may not recognize that the author is a
developer and may very well join in ("I see a lot of posts dealing with bugs
all around KDE, hmm, maybe I could post my annoyances too..").
>
>
> > second: communicating in the negative voice is how one creates negative
> > mindsets which translate to discouragement.
> >
>
> This is true, and yet another reason why Jarvis' proposal makes sense.
> Such posts would begin in a positive voice.
>
I can say for myself as a time-to-time blogger/news writer that one can very
easily slide down into negative tone.
Just my 2 cents.
--
Marty K.
>
> --
> Dotan Cohen
>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 13:56, Dotan Cohen <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dotancohen@gmail.com">dotancohen@gmail.com</a>></span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 12:28, Aaron J. Seigo <<a \
href="mailto:aseigo@kde.org">aseigo@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br> > On Tuesday, June \
14, 2011 05:33:34 Dion Moult wrote:<br> >> Anyways, I think we have an \
appropriate time coming up for a Hate Week. 4.7<br> ><br>
> first: such feedback is meaningless without a corresponding effort to \
address<br> > the issues. work is what is important, not words.<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>I believe that Stuart Jarvis addressed that by proposing to limit the<br>
posts _only_ to those who are actively fixing bugs. Therefore,<br>
contributors such as yourself would be able to chime in, but users<br>
such as myself who only report bugs and feature requests would be<br>
absent. I would even volunteer to be the one to comb the posts for<br>
issues to confirm and then to file in \
bugzilla.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The problem I see with this is, that \
users most probably wouldn't stay silent. Some of them might miss the \
"announcement" and once they see a "hateposts" (although \
positive), they may not recognize that the author is a developer and may very well \
join in ("I see a lot of posts dealing with bugs all around KDE, hmm, maybe I \
could post my annoyances too..").</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> <div class="im"><br>
<br>
> second: communicating in the negative voice is how one creates negative<br>
> mindsets which translate to discouragement.<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>This is true, and yet another reason why Jarvis' proposal makes sense.<br>
Such posts would begin in a positive voice.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I can \
say for myself as a time-to-time blogger/news writer that one can very easily slide \
down into negative tone.</div><div><br></div><div>
Just my 2 cents.</div><div><br></div><div>--</div><div>Marty K.</div><div> \
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex;"> <br>
--<br>
Dotan Cohen<br>
<br>
<a href="http://gibberish.co.il" target="_blank">http://gibberish.co.il</a><br>
<a href="http://what-is-what.com" target="_blank">http://what-is-what.com</a><br>
<br>
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