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Subject: [kde-promo] Fwd: booklet
From: Kurt Pfeifle <k1pfeifle () gmx ! net>
Date: 2010-09-17 9:40:29
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From: Kurt Pfeifle <kurt.pfeifle@googlemail.com>
Date: Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [kde-promo] booklet
To: KDE Promo <kde-promo@kde.org>
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Felix Michel <felix_michel@gmx.ch> wrote:
> C:\downloads> *pdfinfo Kde_booklet_redistilled_by_Ghostscript.pdf*
> > Producer: GPL Ghostscript 8.71
> > CreationDate: 09/15/10 09:14:03
> > ModDate: 09/15/10 09:14:03
> > Tagged: no
> > Pages: 7
> > Encrypted: no
> > Page size: 419.528 x 595.276 pts
> > File size: 191791 bytes
> > Optimized: no
> > PDF version: 1.4
> >
> > In detail:
> >
> > - InDesign's signature in the metadata is gone. ;-)
> > - File size has shrinked from ~580 kBytes to ~190 kBytes
> >
> > I don't see any visible difference in Acro Reader 9.3.3 on WinXP at 96dpi
> > screen resolution and 200% Zoom other than a smaller degradation in the
> KDE
> > logo at the top of each page. But this could be improved or kept at same
> > quality by adding some appropriate tweaking parameters to the Ghostscript
> > commandline (without much more finetuning, first try by adding
> > -dPDFSETTINGS=/prepress).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kurt
>
> thanks Kurt. i only used this font once and it is not really useful for my
> purpose because i need a bold version of this font. i am new at this whole
> pdf
> printing stuff, so i am happy to get some hints. maybe we should provide to
> versions, one without indesign signature and so on and the other one for
> printing the booklet. what do you think?
I don't think circulating 2 different PDF versions of the same KDE promo
file (which even will not display any visible difference on users' screens)
would work. People will not micro-manage 2 versions for themselves. Murphy's
law should tell us that people then will always use the wrong file for
printing ;-)
My point is: whichever version we distribute should work on all (even older)
PDF viewers and on (also older) Linux printers. And before distributing, let
people run some tests. (It may even be that the current file is working fine
in all viewers and through all printer drivers, and the message in my
cmd.exe console was fake. I've just had bad experience with CS3/4/5-PDFs...)
If you want to retain/restore the InDesign signature in the metadata even
after running it through a sanitizing Ghostscript re-distillation, I can
give you some additional commandline which would do just that. Try this:
gs \
-o Kde_booklet_redistilled_by_Ghostscript.pdf \
-sDEVICE=pdfwrite \
-c "[/Creator (Adobe InDesign CS3 \(5.0\)) /Author (KDE Promo Team)
/Title (foobar) /Subject (something) /Keywords (blabla, so-and-so) /DOCINFO
pdfmark" \
-dPDFSETTINGS=/printer \
-f Kde_booklet.pdf
This will produce the following metadata as displayed by 'pdfinfo':
Title: foobar
Subject: something
Keywords: blabla, so-and-so
Author: KDE Promo Team
Creator: Adobe InDesign CS3 (5.0)
Producer: GPL Ghostscript 8.71
CreationDate: 09/15/10 16:53:49
ModDate: 09/15/10 16:53:49
Tagged: no
Pages: 7
Encrypted: no
Page size: 419.528 x 595.276 pts
File size: 192151 bytes
Optimized: no
PDF version: 1.4
You could play with the -dPDFSETTINGS= parameter to see some filesize and
quality differences. Supported values to use are "/screen", "/ebook",
"/default", "/printer" and "/prepress". You could even replace the
"Creator:" thingie if you want...
Cheers,
Kurt
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--------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Kurt Pfeifle</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:kurt.pfeifle@googlemail.com">kurt.pfeifle@googlemail.com</a>></span><br>
Date: Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 5:12 PM<br>Subject: Re: [kde-promo] booklet<br>To: KDE \
Promo <<a href="mailto:kde-promo@kde.org">kde-promo@kde.org</a>><br><br><br><div><div></div><div \
class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Felix Michel <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:felix_michel@gmx.ch" target="_blank">felix_michel@gmx.ch</a>></span> \
wrote:</div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div> <div class="h5">
<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div><div>
> C:\downloads> *pdfinfo Kde_booklet_redistilled_by_Ghostscript.pdf*<br>
> Producer: GPL Ghostscript 8.71<br>
> CreationDate: 09/15/10 09:14:03<br>
> ModDate: 09/15/10 09:14:03<br>
> Tagged: no<br>
> Pages: 7<br>
> Encrypted: no<br>
> Page size: 419.528 x 595.276 pts<br>
> File size: 191791 bytes<br>
> Optimized: no<br>
> PDF version: 1.4<br>
><br>
> In detail:<br>
><br>
> - InDesign's signature in the metadata is gone. ;-)<br>
> - File size has shrinked from ~580 kBytes to ~190 kBytes<br>
><br>
> I don't see any visible difference in Acro Reader 9.3.3 on WinXP at \
96dpi<br> > screen resolution and 200% Zoom other than a smaller degradation in \
the KDE<br> > logo at the top of each page. But this could be improved or kept at \
same<br> > quality by adding some appropriate tweaking parameters to the \
Ghostscript<br> > commandline (without much more finetuning, first try by \
adding<br> > -dPDFSETTINGS=/prepress).<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Kurt<br>
<br>
</div></div>thanks Kurt. i only used this font once and it is not really useful for \
my<br> purpose because i need a bold version of this font. i am new at this whole \
pdf<br> printing stuff, so i am happy to get some hints. maybe we should provide \
to<br> versions, one without indesign signature and so on and the other one for<br>
printing the booklet. what do you \
think?</blockquote><div><br></div></div></div><div>I don't think circulating 2 \
different PDF versions of the same KDE promo file (which even will not display any \
visible difference on users' screens) would work. People will not micro-manage 2 \
versions for themselves. Murphy's law should tell us that people then will always \
use the wrong file for printing ;-)</div>
<div><br></div><div>My point is: whichever version we distribute should work on all \
(even older) PDF viewers and on (also older) Linux printers. And before distributing, \
let people run some tests. (It may even be that the current file is working fine in \
all viewers and through all printer drivers, and the message in my cmd.exe console \
was fake. I've just had bad experience with CS3/4/5-PDFs...)</div>
<div><br></div><div>If you want to retain/restore the InDesign signature in the \
metadata even after running it through a sanitizing Ghostscript re-distillation, I \
can give you some additional commandline which would do just that. Try this:</div>
<div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><font \
face="'courier new', monospace"> gs \</font></span></div><div \
class="im"><div><span style="font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><font \
face="'courier new', monospace"> -o \
Kde_booklet_redistilled_by_Ghostscript.pdf \</font></span></div>
</div><div><span style="font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><font \
face="'courier new', monospace"> -sDEVICE=pdfwrite \
\</font></span></div><div><span style="font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><font \
face="'courier new', monospace"> -c </font></span><span \
style="white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="'courier new', monospace"> \
"[/Creator (Adobe InDesign CS3 \(5.0\)) /Author (KDE Promo Team) /Title (foobar) \
/Subject (something) /Keywords (blabla, so-and-so) /DOCINFO pdfmark" \
<span>\</span></font></span></div>
<div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"><span><font face="'courier new', \
monospace"> -dPDFSETTINGS=/printer \</font></span></span></div><div><span \
style="font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><font face="'courier new', \
monospace"> -f Kde_booklet.pdf</font></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><font face="arial, \
helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div><span \
style="font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><font face="arial, helvetica, \
sans-serif">This will produce the following metadata as displayed by \
'pdfinfo':</font></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><font face="arial, \
helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div><span \
style="font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><div> <font face="'courier \
new', monospace">Title: foobar</font></div><div><font \
face="'courier new', monospace">Subject: \
something</font></div><div> <font face="'courier new', monospace">Keywords: \
blabla, so-and-so</font></div><div><font face="'courier new', \
monospace">Author: KDE Promo Team</font></div><div class="im"> <div><font \
face="'courier new', monospace">Creator: Adobe InDesign CS3 \
(5.0)</font></div></div><div class="im"><div><font face="'courier new', \
monospace">Producer: GPL Ghostscript 8.71</font></div>
</div><div><font face="'courier new', monospace">CreationDate: 09/15/10 \
16:53:49</font></div><div><font face="'courier new', monospace">ModDate: \
09/15/10 16:53:49</font></div><div class="im"> <div><font face="'courier \
new', monospace">Tagged: no</font></div><div><font face="'courier \
new', monospace">Pages: 7</font></div><div><font face="'courier \
new', monospace">Encrypted: no</font></div>
<div><font face="'courier new', monospace">Page size: 419.528 x \
595.276 pts</font></div></div><div><font face="'courier new', monospace">File \
size: 192151 bytes</font></div><div class="im"> <div><font face="'courier \
new', monospace">Optimized: no</font></div><div><font face="'courier \
new', monospace">PDF version: 1.4</font></div><div style="font-family:arial, \
helvetica, sans-serif"> <br></div></div><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, \
sans-serif">You could play with the -dPDFSETTINGS= parameter to see some filesize and \
quality differences. Supported values to use are "/screen", \
"/ebook", "/default", "/printer" and \
"/prepress". You could even replace the "Creator:" thingie if you \
want...</div>
<div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></div><div \
style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Cheers,</div><div \
style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Kurt</div></span></div></div> \
</div><br>
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